Discussion about first discovering the difference between a circumcised and intact penis - Tell us your story
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Danny Boy
21/5/2018 10:45:02 pm
I was about 4 years old, my cousin and I were pissing in the bush at the end on the garden when he looked at my duck and said, "oh, you're not circumcised yet". He knew all about it and I wondered when it would happen to me. Twenty years was the eventual answer!
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Michael
10/4/2024 06:15:26 pm
I remember I was about 6 or 7 when I went into our bathroom at home. My Dad was taking a bath and I could clearly see that he was circumcised and that my penis looked quite different to mine. That's when I got the desire to want to circumcised to be like him.
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David
22/5/2018 02:43:06 pm
Does your cousin know your now circumcised?
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Danny Boy
22/5/2018 03:51:02 pm
No, we haven't seen each other for years. Not something we'd talk about if we met up I dare say.
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Clive
30/5/2018 02:43:30 pm
When about 5 years old some friends came to stay. They had a son a year older and we shared the same room while he was there. I remember him asking why he looked different from me (at that time I was intact) and he was told some skin had been taken off the end of his penis. I was asked to pull my skin back and show him what had been removed. We were told that what had been done was called circumcision and my parents had considered having me 'done' when I was younger. I later learned that my dad was against circumcision and was himself intact, whilst my mothers side was very much for the procedure. I arranged my own circumcision as an adult and have never regretted the decision.
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Andrew
25/7/2018 09:18:40 am
I had a very similar experience - early on in primary school I went to stay over with one of my new friends (David) who was Jewish - although I did not really understand what that meant. I do recall my mother telling me not to ask for sausages at breakfast.
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David
4/6/2018 07:10:16 pm
I saw my friend Stuart in the showers he is the first guy I remeber noticing being circumcised.
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Paul
5/6/2018 10:57:15 pm
I had seen my Dad and some much older men in the changing rooms when I went swimming before but the first time I saw someone my own age who was circumcised was when I was about 9 in the showers at school. I remembering he had a really big penis and a noticeable bell end. He was the only boy in my class who was cut. I upped that total to two Roundheads a year and a half later, when I was also circumcised.
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PeteS
29/10/2018 02:42:56 pm
You say he was the only boy in your class who was cut I am as sure as I can be that there was only one boy in my primary school who was cut ... that was me! So I know how he must have felt.
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4/8/2022 12:48:06 pm
I saw my mates cut dick at 9, his mushroom head looking very nice. I had a large over hanging foreskin. As an adult I booked into a clinic in Luton and after an hour had my cut dick of my dreams. I now have a flared head and large mushroom head ;-))
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Will
6/6/2018 02:57:03 pm
My father was circumcised, and we were not unduly modest in our house, so I was used to seeing his. I knew that he'd had an operation called circumcision, and that I hadn't. When I got to post-11 school, we had the usual naked showers three time as week after PE. There were six lads in my class of 30 who were circumcised - all, I think, as RIC or medical necessity, though one was done at 9 when his family went out to Aden for a few years; they thought it was more hygenic. I thought they looked so good I started making my foreskin stay back.
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PaulC
7/6/2018 08:15:45 pm
How did that go, Will, and did it lead you on to get cut yourself later in life? I also knew that Dad had had an operation called circumcision and that I hadn't but it wasn't until I was 11 that I was too. I couldn't pull my foreskin back at all and I still have only a hazy grasp of how they work so I'd be really interested, if you're up for sharing?
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Mark
12/6/2018 06:00:52 pm
When I was seven I went swimming with my best friend at the time, also Mark, who was Jewish. We changed in the same cubicle and I noticed that his penis looked different. I hadn't started retracting my foreskin, so was fascinated to see an exposed head. Mark caught me looking and explained that his foreskin had been removed when he was a baby. I soon learnt that if I pulled my foreskin back I could have the same look.
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David
27/6/2018 08:58:07 am
Communal showers at school and seeing a guy Stuart in my class who was cut I think is where I first really became aware although I think I new about the concept by then.
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John
5/7/2018 12:38:23 am
When I was about 11/12 and started at secondary school, which meant communal naked showers after PE lessons. I remember noticing one lad in my class of around 20 boys who was circumcised, at the time I didn't know about circumcision, I just noticed that his penis looked different to mine and everyone else's in the class. It wasn't really talked about much, but another classmate said that he'd probably "had the end snipped off when he was a baby", found out years later that his family were Jewish but non-practicing.
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PeteS
2/11/2018 01:42:23 pm
I had a partly similar experience. I was about the same age and just started secondary school (yes, naked showers after PE and all that). I too remember noticing one lad in my class of around 20 boys who was circumcised. Now our stories differ...
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Andrew
25/7/2018 12:07:15 am
My memories of the 1960s/70s are also very similar, I was at an all boys school, and out of my class about one third were cut (some were jewish others were presumably as a result of RIC). Most were loosely cut, but two stuck out as being different. One was very open about the fact that his parents had him circumcised because it was better and cleaner - He had a very tight and complete circumcision with no obvious loose skin at all. The other (my friend) was from the USA and he also had a very tight circumcision with a scar part way down his penis that was very neat and also very clear to see - He and I went swimming together regularly and whilst getting changed he saw me looking at his penis, so he told me that all American boys were like that. I was desperate to look like him; a wish that was not to be fulfilled for another couple of years (I was cut at the age of 11)
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Steve
1/8/2018 09:16:23 pm
Interesting to read all these comments here regarding the 'discovery' of a circumcised pens. Total opposite on my side of the world (Australia ) when I was growing up in the 1970s. In our changerooms and other like places it was the hoodie (or dog's dicks as we called them) that were the rarity. In a PE class of 40 boys there would be possibly only 2 or maybe 3 guys with foreskins. This was the same at the three different high schools I attended. They also tended to be English boys. Never even knew the English partook in the ritual until coming across this sites.. What difference a few decades makes though. Now my son who is also circed at my insistence, is in the minority. Such a shame. I suppose it it gives him a touch of the exotic. ..
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Andrew
4/8/2018 12:20:23 am
Thanks for your reply and you comments
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Steve
4/8/2018 12:50:37 pm
I was born in 1965, and yes, the totally exposed head wad the norm. I've only ever encountered one guy who had a smallish amount of foreskin over the head (he called it a half circ). I suppose you could call most of the guys I grew up with 'radical' cuts. As an adult I started to learn about various methods of circumcision and was especially taken with what seemed to be described as the gomco method - characterised by the distinctive brown ring halfway down the shift. I had seen nothing like this in real life, only in porn so I assume that the gomco was not used here in Australia. I had no idea what method wad used on me until I was seeing a urologist about another matter as a 34 year old. It turns out he was probably the doctor who cut me. I asked him about techniques used by him. He was London trained from South Africa and said he used no special tools, just the freehand method. As my pens seems visually very much lie my contemporaries, I can only assume that freehand was the method of choice in the 1960s.
THUK
10/9/2018 08:38:56 am
Steve, we'd love to tell your story. If you're interested, drop us a line at the Contact page - James
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David R
3/9/2022 04:59:58 pm
I am an Aussie doctor. Have done lots of circumcisions, almost all Gomcos. These were used in Australia under the name Little Trimmer. The typical Aussie cut in the early days was with Bone cutters which look a little like wire cutters.
Dan
23/6/2019 01:52:54 pm
When was yr son done ?
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Sean
5/8/2018 12:03:59 pm
Steve’s comments are interesting. Apparently, according to the Circlist website, there was a Gomco clone marketed in Australia in the 1970’s known as The Little Trimmer, but perhaps this never caught on. With Australia’s close association with the UK, medical training etc, clamps other than the Plastbell for infants, do not appear to have been as popular as they are in the US. Mine was done freehand which seems to be the most common procedure in the UK apparently and quite tight, but a good friend recalls when he was about 7, back in the 70’s, being taken to the Doctor’s surgery and what he thinks was a Mogen Clamp being placed on his penis, then being told to look at something out of the window and within seconds his foreskin was swiftly excised. I suppose a lot depends on the expertise of the Surgeon/Doctor and the method they are most familiar with.
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From what I have read, the advantages of the Gomco clamp are that it does not need much training to use and that the clamping action cuts off the blood supply to the foreskin so there is not a lot of bleeding. The disadvantages are that it is quite a slow technique and because blood pools in the shaft skin behind the clamp it tends to leave a dark ring around the penis that does not completely fade; some people seem to like this though! A skilled surgeon can perform a freehand circumcision with a scalpel and basic medical tools very quickly. I've not been to a Jewish bris ceremony myself, but it seems that a skilled Jewish mohel is even quicker at parting a boy from his foreskin!
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Andrew
5/8/2018 11:27:38 pm
From what I saw when working in the USA, the Gomco certainly produces a very thorough and neat circumcision - but as you say the scar can be quite prominent.
Paul S
6/3/2019 05:30:19 pm
I was invited to a Jewish bris once by some good Jewish friends. They were quite conservative, and their rabbi, who was also a trained mohel, insisted on checking to see if I'd been circumcised before he'd let me into the ceremony. He was impressed with my circ, and told me he thought it was with a Mogen clamp. which was his preferred instrument. And which he proceded to use upon the 8 day old baby. It was all over in a flash. He was very skilled.
Andrew
5/8/2018 11:23:37 pm
It is interesting that the Mogen was being used in the UK in the 1970s - I had thought it was more of an American device. What other details did your friend tell you about his experience (if any) - Was he positive about the experience and the result ?
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PaulS
6/3/2019 06:10:16 pm
Andrew, seems as if the Mogen was in use in the late 40s when I was born. But it was at a military hospital in India, and my mum told me there were a lot of American doctors working there then. I am pretty sure I was Mogened because of the V-shaped scar on the underside.
Andrew
6/8/2018 07:30:09 am
Steve - What is your sons opinion of being circumcised - as you say he must be in the minority now - is he pro or anti ?
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Steve
6/8/2018 12:30:58 pm
Andrew - he's 14 now and has only ever discussed it with me once when he was 12. He'd just started high school and I believe that the subject came up in Religious Education class. It turns out his teacher admitted to having it done as a 12 year old (I think he would have been born in the 1970s). Anyway, we're travelling home in the car that day and he just came out and asked me why. He'd caught me off guard and I mumbled something about cleanliness and sexual health. I couldn't share with him all the revolting experiences I'd had over the years encountering uncut guys. I'll leave the details to your imagination .
PaulW
24/8/2018 04:26:22 pm
Like many other people I'm sure, I first came across circumcised cocks in the open showers when at an all-boys school in England back in the late '70s. I'd guess about 20% were circumcised, some from overseas, some Jewish and some from the UK who were circumcised as infants. I was fascinated and got to compare with one of them. I certainly thought his looked much better (and was cleaner), but it took a long time before I finally got round to getting circumcised myself.
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Andrew
24/8/2018 11:12:20 pm
It seems as if 20-30% was pretty much the norm for the 1970s in UK
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PaulW
25/8/2018 10:10:16 am
Yes, jealous, I suppose, looking back on it. I loved the fact that circumcision permanently reveals that most intimate part of the male anatomy and makes the whole thing look neat and tidy. I think there was a bit of that for me too - some of the best sportsmen (which was a big deal) were cut and that made me envy them even more.
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Will
27/8/2018 01:04:54 pm
Yes, I like the fact that the glans is always exposed. It does look neater, especially given the overhang of some foreskins. Somehow I just think it looks more 'manly'! Even at school (before my circumcision) I always found the idea of putting your cock away with the exposed helmet when getting dressed very arousing.
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PaulW
27/8/2018 11:14:48 pm
Agreed, it's very manly to have the most intimate part of a man's body permanently on display. I did too, pre-circumcision, but now I can enjoy that sensation myself. It now just feels completely normal to have that feeling.
andrew
27/8/2018 11:52:46 pm
Will - you have previously mentioned your friend who was circumcised in Aden. I get where you are coming from! I think my choice of underwear is an extension of the desire for an 'exposed' feeling. I prefer snug fitting trunks (with Lycra for extra stretch) without padding at the front. I like the way the fabric clings to the helmet, showing it off. Anyone seeing me get changed down at the gym would be in no doubt that I am circumcised, even with my pants still on! I must be a bit of an exhibitionist at heart!
Will
31/8/2018 07:33:56 pm
Andrew - the lad who was circumcised for Aden (who was also Andrew, as it happens!) was merely the latest in a series. He joined the school in the second year, and there were already six others in my class without foreskins. They had all been done before coming to grammar school. I never found out why they were: a couple I know were for medical reasons - phimosis; and one had a GI father, so that probably accounted for that. One I now suspect may have kept his foreskin rolled back. There were about the same number in the parallel form (we shared games lessons, and thus changing rooms and showers). Several of them came from the same town in the school's very wide catchment area, so I do wonder if there was a circumcising doctor there.
Andrew
27/8/2018 11:49:47 pm
It is interesting that we both had the impression that the best sportsmen were circumcised - I am sure there is no logic to this - But there we are
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PaulW
28/8/2018 04:13:31 pm
He seemed very happy with it, or at least didn't question it at all. He didn't know why he had been circumcised, except that he was done as an infant.
Andrew
17/9/2018 11:52:32 pm
For Will,
Andy
13/9/2018 10:33:30 pm
I don’t remember seeing any circumcised penises in the showers at school (state school in rural England in the 80s was foreskins all round) so it was a mystery to me until I was older and encountered one for real. I was fascinated by how sleek it was and how naked the exposed head without foreskin is. Like previous contributors I think the fascination was mixed with a bit of envy and that led to my own circumcision years later.
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Andrew
27/8/2018 11:56:34 pm
I agree about that - it is much cleaner - and I think it looks much better if the glans it totally and completely exposed.
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PaulW
29/8/2018 11:40:35 am
I have always loved the look of the classic USA-style high cut, so that's what I got done, but a low cut can look very hot, too. I do like the look of a clear, neat scar - a reminder of what's been removed!
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Good choice, sir! Plenty of inner skin to enjoy.
Andrew
29/8/2018 11:26:30 pm
It is interesting that your friend in England, had such a USA style circumcision - were you in East Anglia where many children were circumcised on the US airbases in the 1960s / 70s
Andrew
17/9/2018 11:57:55 pm
I agree - but I think that the scar is best if it is even with no stitch marks
Andrew
29/8/2018 11:31:49 pm
Nick
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My brother is a few years older than I am, so it could just be that the doctor revised his technique over time. I grew up in a small town in England and was circumcised by one of the GPs at my local surgery in 1970, when I was two years old. One of the partners there at the time had surgical experience and did all the infant circumcisions. If you grew up in my home town and were circumcised in the 60's to the 90's, he probably was the man that did it.
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To clarify what I mean by 'V-cut underneath' my circumcision scar is about one centimetre behind the rim of the glans and follows its shape all the way around. So underneath the head, the scar forms an inverted V. This also means that most of the frenulum, including the part where it fans out, was removed: I have a 1 cm long, thin band of it remaining. From what I can gather, it is far more common for the cut to form a ring around the penis leaving more inner skin underneath and the frenulum intact. Of course, the frenulum is then often removed to complete the procedure.
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PaulW
2/9/2018 10:18:11 pm
Interestingly I have a 'v' scar underneath, which looks great in my opinion, but most of the frenulum was left. I would have preferred it if it had been removed and it looks neater that way
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Andrew
18/9/2018 12:06:54 am
I do think it is better if the Frenulum is removed - Mine was cut before my foreskin was pulled forward, clamped and then cut
To add to my earlier comments, I found an interesting article here: http://www.circlist.com/rites/uk.html - If you scroll down about halfway there is a section called 'The British Style'. This reflects very accurately the observations in this thread. According to this article, a typical British circumcision is done by a 'tug and chop' method which gives a loose cut, with mobile skin on the shaft. However, there is an alternative, less common method which was first documented in 1912! This involves pulling the foreskin forwards, clamping it parallel to the rim of the glans and cutting along the forceps with a scalpel. Then the remaining inner foreskin is slit underneath and trimmed close to the rim of the glans. The result is a tight circumcision with very little inner skin and a scar close to the glans. It is postulated that this style was intended to discourage masturbation! I find this interesting because my brother has the more common loose style circumcision, while I am cut tight in the exact style that the second method describes. I can say that my tight cut has never stopped me from masturbating, though if I am not really in the mood it can take me ages to come!
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Andrew
9/10/2018 11:15:02 pm
Thank you for those thoughts and observations.
andrew
31/8/2018 12:38:01 am
Sounds like you got yourself a near perfect cut (in my opinion)
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IMHO, I have a very neat cut. Without wishing to blow my own trumpet, I think I have a good looking penis. Of course it is all down to personal taste. I have clearly had a lot of penile skin removed and some people may find my circumcision a bit too radical for their liking.
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Frank
31/8/2018 09:12:29 pm
But that's what makes it even more interesting. We can all hear/read/see porn anytime we like. Middle England is where it's at!
THUK
5/9/2018 08:52:40 am
We're really looking forward to publishing your story Nick. We've had a fair bit of interest lately, so we have one to go live before yours.
As I said above, I recommend filling in the Locker Room questionnaire. Everyone who comments on this forum has their own story to tell.
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David
5/9/2018 05:51:23 pm
BBC One is working on a documentary about male circumcision fronted by journalist Adnan Sarwar. The producers are looking for men, particularly gay men, to speak with them on camera about their thoughts and experiences.
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THUK
10/9/2018 08:40:35 am
David, would you be interested in joining us in participating in the documentary? BBC would like us to create an event, so we need a decent sized group.
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Mark
10/10/2018 11:56:49 am
I think one problem, which probably helps the intactivist lunatics is that there are some Tumblr pro-circumcision websites which seem to be designed to portray men as slaves/victims of women who are supposed to either "demand" or actually carry out the circumcision of their man/slave (a lot f it is probably just wank fodder). A few of these sites suggest men are circumcised so their sexual urges can be "controlled" by the woman, and the clear implication that the male will get no satisfaction from the sexual act but is there to merely serve the woman (I can give you a few examples of such sites if you want them). The fact that the man is perceived to have his sexual enjoyment curtailed by circumcision must help the intactivists. As a gay man, I would much rather encounter a nice clean circumcised cock, the more radical the better. I just wish frenulum removal was not regarded as an optional extra - it serves no real purpose IMO
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PaulW
11/10/2018 07:36:42 pm
Mark, it's understandable that intactivists would want to promote the idea that circumcision reduces sexual enjoyment and those ideas seem prevalent across certain parts of the internet. I have found nothing could be further than the truth; having had it both ways as I chose to be circumcised as an adult, I find I get far more pleasure now. Orgasms are far more intense and longer lasting now that I don't have a foreskin. Has anyone else found this? As far as the frenulum is concerned, I agree, it serves no purpose once the foreskin has been removed and should be excised, too.
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Will
12/10/2018 09:34:22 am
I think some of it may go back to the old Victorian nonsense of circumcising boys to stop them masturbating - which as we all know, is nonsense! Like PaulW, I was circumcised as an adult at my own choice, and if anything it has made me hornier!
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PaulW
13/10/2018 10:30:39 am
Will, I suppose they dislike the fact that for some of us, we chose a cosmetic enhancement to our bodies. As far as I am concerned my cock is now better that it was when I had a foreskin. I have sympathy for guys who underwent RIC and are unhappy, though.
Will
13/10/2018 04:13:47 pm
PaulW - Yes, I am sure you are right. I think *most* of them are Americans who have been RIC'd and have developed a huge complex about it. They then see it as mutilation. But there are far more men who have had non-elective circumcisions for various reasons and have no problems with it at all. 'Oh yeah, my parents thought it was best. Whatever'.
Steve
14/10/2018 11:04:00 am
Hi there gents. I'm a product of a RIC (Australia ) and couldn't be happier. When the subject has ever come up with my mates I'm yet to hear a single whine, they've all been happy to have been done. Although most having unfortunately not given their own sons the same gift.
Steven
15/10/2018 09:25:29 pm
Although I don't fall into the category of RIC, being circumcised at age 5 leaves you with a lot of questions.
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Mark
16/10/2018 05:59:51 am
Steven. I am not sure if you are British or American? (Steven without the "ph" - Stephen) suggests you might be American. If you are in Britain though, I think the problem is that especially in secondary/comprehensive schools, because you would be in a minority, bullying or "remarks" will always be made about "differences". Circumcised guys are in a minority, and I remember some of the remarks against cut lads in nthe showers after PE (when I was at school compulsory showers were the order of the day, and as our teacher was ex-services, we were even topless in the gum - no tee shirts or vest). Any difference was fair game - I got teased for having a birthmark, another lad also called Mark got teased for an operation scar he had on his chest. It's cruel and childish, and circumcision was also fair game. I believe now at school showers are no longer compulsory and I don't think any PE teacher would risk forcing lads of 14/15 wearing just shorts and nothing else (as we had to do), so hopefully this sort of body shaming will become a thing of the past. I should imagine in American schools it's the uncut lads who get bullied.
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Steven
16/10/2018 06:45:36 pm
I agree bullying is infortunately part of school life, and any reason for being different will just be an opportunity for that kind of behaviour.
Andrew
9/11/2018 02:27:37 pm
I only experienced one fairly short period of bullying over this issue. Hi Steven. I was circumcised aged two and this has caused me anxiety in the past. A man's penis is central to his being, and to have part of it sliced off and discarded arbitrarily can be hard to take. I would love to know how it feels to have sex with an intact penis. I envy both uncut men, and men who chose circumcision for themselves as adults for having enjoyed experiences I can never have. It is probably a bit fucked-up, but through all this I find the subject of circumcision rather arousing and in recent years I have found a way of making the most of my circumcision. Since finding this site I have shared (probably overshared) things that I would have found impossible in the past and could not share with my best male friends (all uncut) as they would not understand and would probably just take the piss in a banterish way. I am open with my girlfriend about this stuff but sometimes a male perspective is what is needed. I think I am trying to say that it is good to have people to confide in and you certainly are not alone.
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Steven
20/10/2018 03:47:57 pm
Yes I kind of understand what you mean by arousing, for me at various stages it's been an obsession to get back what I have lost/understand what I'm missing out on, including attempts at restoration, and by association trying to understand that pleasure other guys experience is arousing.
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I think the arousal for me is associated with giving my girlfriend pleasure. Perhaps this sounds a bit needy, but when I make her climax with my penis I feel like I'm doing my 'manly duty' and am just as good as any other guy. When I come myself it can be pretty intense and in the moment it can feel like the rest of the world has disappeared. I don't think I am missing out on the orgasm side of things but I am convinced I am less sensitive than an uncut man: when being given a blow job, my girlfriend has to work on the shaft with her hand to help bring me off, otherwise Christmas would come before I did!
Phil Thames
19/10/2018 10:52:52 pm
It would be great if several readers of this great site were to a real life pub chat. Thoughts?
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David
25/10/2018 11:18:35 am
Yes would be interesting
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Will
29/10/2018 01:46:37 pm
I might be interested.
PeteS
28/10/2018 12:46:59 pm
I first discovered a difference when I was four or five years old. I now know that that would have been about a year or two after I was circumcised although at the time, I didn’t know that I had been. I didn’t even know what circumcision was. I just remember that, for some reason, there had previously been some medical treatment to my penis.
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PeteS
28/10/2018 03:29:41 pm
Oh great! My first post on this site any I make a typo!!
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andrew
1/11/2018 12:20:06 pm
Although you felt different about your physical appearance, did that make you feel negative about yourself.
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PeteS
2/11/2018 08:26:39 am
Certainly, the difference caused me a LOT of issues whilst I was growing up, many of which persisted into adulthood but no, I cannot remember ever feeling negative about myself.
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You make a lot of sense. I had big hang ups about being circumcised when I was a teenager. Communal showers at high school helped me begin to get over it when I realised there were quite a few circumcised boys in my year. This was the 1980's in the UK so the majority of guys were intact, but there were enough of us cut lads around to make being circumcised feel rather ordinary. I think most of us just feel the need to belong and not stand out, certainly that was what I wanted at that age.
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PeteS
2/11/2018 01:28:47 pm
Thanks, that's very reassuring! It sounds as though I'm probably about 20 years older than you as I was in high school in the 1960s. There was only one other circumcised boy in my year so it was difficult for me to feel ordinary. I don't think I ever have felt ordinary with my kit off!
Hi PeteS. The way I see it is that while being circumcised in the UK makes us part of a minority, many parents have their sons circumcised and, as such, being circumcised is perfectly ordinary.
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Mark
4/11/2018 04:11:55 pm
In my later time at school, between 14-16 we had several lads who came from "professional" career soldier fathers, and it was interesting (to me) that wherever they had started out - I remember one Scottish lad a couple from the North of England as well as nearer home in this Southern England garrison town, most of those with soldier dads were circumcised. Whether that is a military tradition hanging on til the 70s/80s I have no idea. I was only really mates with one of them, to be able to talk about it. Although from Salford, he was born in a military hospital in Germany - they had given him a proper American style high and tight though.
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PeteS
4/11/2018 05:13:34 pm
There was a small army camp not far from the town where I went to school. In my year, there was only one lad whose father was stationed there. He was not circumcised.
Sean
4/11/2018 05:56:28 pm
Hi Mark, You have reminded me, of a conversation I had with a friend, a few years back. He was telling me about the complications of getting his sons registered as British citizens, they had been born a few years apart in the 70s, in Germany while he and his wife had been stationed there in the Military. He also explained that as there was no local British Military hospital close to where they lived they had to use the services of an American Military Hospital, He also told me that immediately after his sons were born they had both been circumcised without him or his wife being asked or given any approval. He said with his second son he was hoping that he would be done so that they would both be alike even though he was intact. You don’t say whether it was a British or American Military hospital where your school friend was born but if it was a British hospital it is interesting that they were carrying out routine circumcisions. I am sure there must be plenty of British guys born abroad into Military families who read these pages, so perhaps they cold enlighten us of their status or whether other military parents experienced this.
PeteS
4/11/2018 05:04:58 pm
Hi Nick. Many thanks for your reply and for sharing those details, including many personal ones, with me (as well as the rest of the world, of course!). I’m not sure whether you set out to reassure and/or encourage me but you have, so I thank you anyway. Some responses:
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Sean
4/11/2018 06:17:27 pm
For a while back in 80s, my local GP who was Asian, had a Saturday clinic for young boys from the local Asian community or for that matter anyone who wanted to make use of his services On a separate issue I did some professional work for him and visited his house. His fully fitted bar led me to realise he wasn’t a Muslim even though he was a well experienced circumciser. I found this out first hand when he relived me of my foreskin and left me with a perfect reasonably tight cut with about a cm of inner skin.
Sean
4/11/2018 06:36:58 pm
Reading that back after i posted ut I think I should have explained the work I did for my GP and the work he did on me, lol, were several years apart.
I was trying to reassure you. I have suffered from anxiety in the past due to being circumcised as an infant. I realised over the years that most of the issues were related to my feelings about it rather than the circumcision itself. We all have our own ways of coping with things; my brother is circumcised too and I doubt if he spent more than five minutes being bothered by it. We are all different in the way we react to situations.
Sean
4/11/2018 07:44:54 pm
Hi Nick, You have provided some very entertaining posts regarding your history so it’s only fair to tell you my story, not that it is particularly exciting. I live in the Cotswolds too so it’s a shame we can’t share a chat in a country pub somewhere. Perhaps THUK can think of a way to put interested parties in touch with one another.
THUK
5/11/2018 09:06:24 am
Sean, if you send us an email consenting - we are happy to pass your email address to anyone who does the same.
Andrew
7/11/2018 09:44:05 am
I think that one of the reasons for the significant variation in percentages of cut boys in the 1970s/80s was down to huge variation in local practice - by GP Clinics that often did minor surgery in those days, and also by the large number of small local cottage and district hospitals that were around at that time - If one had a local enthusiast them inevitably local rates would have been higher.
Mark
7/11/2018 06:17:25 pm
To answer Sean, it was a British military hospital, which was what struck me - I know at one time in America it was virtually done as part of the post birth routine. Another interesting thing (but after I left school). I belonged to an amateur boxing club. I wasn't very good but if you took part in competitions you had to have a medical, and our club had a local GP as it's medical adviser. He wasn't a posh doctor, he sounded and looked very down to earth. Anyway, his son joined our club, and I was interested to see that the GPs son was circumcised as well. The family wasn't Jewish or Muslim, and after a time having got friendly with him, we talked about it one evening and he told me he was circumcised at birth. He really disliked that he had been cut (and his younger brother, not a boxer was also cut at birth.
Richard (ClentBoy)
6/11/2018 03:19:55 pm
Nick im 51 also and also from Worcestershire about 7 miles away from Bromesgrove and at our very large high school that again was overwhelmingly protestant and again working & lower middle class 52 of us did PE & in the showers only 1 lad was circumcised and that was due to a urinary track infection at birth so i can honestly say if over 30 at your school were cut that is an amazing local difference isnt it ive never left my home town, always been proud to be a Worcestershire lad despite having a very difficult birth and being born in a matertinity hospital in Brum and still meet some mates each friday at the pub and showed them the comments there not surprised at me showing it them as they know from school ive always had a very and i mean very tight foreskin hence my interest in Team Helmet UK but they were very shocked indeed. The subject of circumcision never ever came up with my mum and im still at my same GPs & they have never offered circumcisions but i am surprised of a such a difference within Worcestershire.
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I wondered about this since other comments on this site and things people have told me about cut lads being a rarity at their schools. Across the whole year there were about 300 pupils, about half male. I counted 28 cut. Of these six were muslims, two Jewish and one Egyptian Christian. I don't know why things vary so much from school to school but it is intriguing.
To add to my previous message, I was born in Bromsgrove but my parents moved to Worcester when I was about 6 months old. I grew up and went to school there. While Worcester is a small provincial city it is a lot more diverse than further out in the shire. I do think too that the GP played a role. My father was a former naval officer and very pro circumcision, so my foreskin was always on borrowed time, but an enthusiastic GP offering circumcision may have swayed a few more neutral parents. Anecdotal, I know, but of two lads in my year at school who were cousins, Paul (who went to my GP) was cut and Scott (who I don't think did) was intact.
PeteS
7/11/2018 02:19:30 pm
Interesting! Then I wasn't unique in being unique (if you see what I mean. Such a big difference over such a small area is indeed strange.
PeteS
7/11/2018 02:43:09 pm
I am REALLY struggling with the "Reply" buttons. My last comment was meant to be for Richard.
Sean
4/11/2018 09:08:29 pm
I think I gross them out just talking about it
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PeteS
5/11/2018 04:10:57 pm
Hi Nick,
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PeteS
7/11/2018 02:38:31 pm
(Mmmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong! I have lost that "Reply" button again! This first part is meant to be a reply to your post above in response to Richard.)
THUK
7/11/2018 03:06:16 pm
Hi PeteS - just to note, you can't reply to a Reply. You have to scroll up to find the first comment in that thread, and reply to that. Then your message will appear at the bottom of that thread.
PeteS
8/11/2018 01:31:17 pm
Ah! Many thanks for clarifying that. I think the procedure has now got through my thick skull! It’s a bit different from that used on some other sites I post to but I will get used to it.
PeteS
8/11/2018 01:32:26 pm
Thanks for that. I too have read the article on that site. I don’t think it matches my result but it’s difficult to be certain. After all, it depends how tight is “tight” and how close is “close”. I used to think mine was quite tight until I once saw one which was so tight it made mine look comparatively loose!
Hi PeteS. There probably is no hard and fast definition but I would say that if you have no or little loose skin bunched up on the shaft when soft, and the skin is pulled taut when hard with little movement then that is a tight cut. If you are cut close enough to the head such that part of the frenulum is cut away then that is low. I am cut low and tight, with no bunched up skin when soft and the skin tight on the shaft when hard. My cut line is about a cm away from the rim of the head when hard and most of my frenulum has been removed. I personally like a nice tight circumcision, but mine is a little bit too tight: I get some scrotum pulled up the shaft when hard which gives me pubic hair up to about an inch up the shaft. I shave this off because it is a pain when using condoms.
PeteS
11/11/2018 03:31:08 pm
Thanks for that. Based on your descriptions, I would say mine is a tight cut but it cannot be too tight as I have never had a problem with condoms. I do not think my frenulum is cut although it does not look like that of an uncut male. I read somewhere that, after a circumcision in infancy, the frenulum does not develop normally (after all, it has nothing to do!) but you never know how accurate such statements are. My cut line is very uneven so its distance from the rim of the helmet varies! In some places it’s about 1 cm like yours but in other places it’s probably about double that! I have done a lot of research over the years to try to find a method which matches that result but so far without success. I saw a post once which said that an uneven scar-line is an “NHS trademark” but that does not reveal the method. In the past, I have considered getting recut to tidy it up a bit but, like you, I think one circumcision is enough! It always struck me that everything about infant circumcision is arbitrary. Whether or not you are circumcised is based on a parental whim and after that decision is made, you could be subjected to a radical cut or just get a minimal trim. As to which style you get there is no obvious reason why. I was cut low and very tight, and at times it seemed like I had been preemptively punished for a 'crime' I had not yet committed! I am over it now and these days I get my enjoyment where I can. If that has made me a kinky old so and so with a predilection for circumcision then so be it!
PeteS
12/11/2018 10:17:59 am
You are right; everything about infant circumcision is arbitrary and there is probably no real reason why you get a particular style. I believe that some methods usually/always result in a particular style and that’s why I am hoping to one day find out which method was used in my case.
Sean
12/11/2018 12:38:18 pm
Hi Pete. I think from your description, particularly where you describe the uneven scarline, that it’s pretty certain that you were cut freehand. Basically this involves cutting circumferentially around outer layer of foreskin in line with the rim of the glans, then trimming back the inner skin which forms the inner layer. The inner and outer skin can then be brought back together and bandaged up and sutured for older children and adults. Naturally with an infant the possibility of an uneven cut line increases because of the size of the penis and also the skill/experience of the surgeon carrying out the operation. I believe this was the method used for my own adult circumcision however, my scarline is perfectly straight and circular, about 1cm behind the glans except for the underside where it takes the form of an inverted V shape with its point touching the frenum of which about half remains.
Andrew
13/11/2018 01:37:42 pm
I agree with all who have posted about the variation in cosmetic outcomes in UK being the norm - and yes I suspect it is because the freehand technique with stitching is (was) preferred here - I don't know why the clamps which were so commonly used in America did not catch on over here = Perhaps it is because in the US Circumcision is truly done in infancy - where as in UK it is often done later.
PeteS
14/11/2018 04:04:12 pm
To Sean:
richard
18/11/2018 11:52:22 am
I was circumcised in just before the start of the NHS by the family GP. Done at home on the kitchen table. I have a very uneven scar and two sets of stitch tunnels in the ex-fren area. A doctor friend confirms that mine was definitely a freehand job. As the tension on the "tug" becomes more and more focussed on an ever decreasing area as the cut is made so the scar line becomes more and more irregular.My doc friend also says I probably had a mild hypospadus which would have made things more tricky. Hypospadus is always a contra-indication fro circ but that was then and circ seen as a fairly simple matter. A tidying up after the birth of a boy. Good to share this stuff. Thanks
PeteS
18/11/2018 12:59:53 pm
That confirmation from your doctor friend seems to confirm it for me. Mine must also have been done freehand. I have heard of stitch tunnels but don’t have any myself. I have never found any traces of stitches. I don’t know whether they can completely fade over the years or maybe there is another method of joining the two cut surfaces together, such as cauterisation. I do not know.
Sean
18/11/2018 03:57:25 pm
Peter and both Richards you raise some interesting points.
Sean
18/11/2018 04:24:34 pm
PeteS
Andrew
18/11/2018 06:34:20 pm
The difference between the Tug and Chop method and the freehand is that in the tug and chop a forcep guidesvthe cut and the inner skin is then left. Freehand can be what it says or can start as a tug and chop with a freehand trimming of the inner skin
Richard
19/11/2018 12:02:02 pm
Thanks for some interesting comments. I agree that stitches are not the norm for infant circumcisions but I certainly do have two sets of tunnels & I as circ'd at two weeks old. They are in the position where the fren was removed and join the scar to the raphe at that point. My doctor friend says it was probably necessary due the mild hypospadus I was born with & that my foreskin was all to one side. This equates with the irregular scar line. My doc. friend, a little older than me was trained as a student to do freehand circs. He made an interesting observation that a lot depended on whether the operator was rt or lt handed and whether he stood to the side or the front of the child. All interesting to learn of how this profound change was made to us and how it still affects me now in my old age.
PeteS
19/11/2018 02:59:39 pm
Sean
PeteS
19/11/2018 03:09:22 pm
Sorry, Sean. I meant, of course, "I’m sure you are right in saying that the change in attitude was NOT immediate.
Andrew
19/11/2018 05:00:04 pm
Thanks for your various reply’s
PeteS
20/11/2018 10:42:41 am
That does indeed sound scary but I'm relieved to hear that it wasn't! It was anyway a very different experience to most! Being able to see exactly what was happening must have been quite surreal!
Andrew
20/11/2018 05:00:01 pm
To. PeteS
PeteS
21/11/2018 01:56:02 pm
Wow, thanks for sharing those details! Amazing to read how normal everything about circumcision is in Turkey. I mean, I know it’s a Muslim country and therefore boys are circumcised. I suppose it must therefore follow that everything to do with it is routine. To hear the details from someone who has been through the procedure there puts a different perspective on it, though. The operator putting boys at ease and, especially, having other boys around to reassure you must have made the experience very different from that in western Europe.
Richard (ClentBoy)
7/11/2018 01:15:59 pm
Hello Nick,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
18/11/2018 01:51:09 pm
PeteS & Other Richard, 13/1/2023 02:18:11 pm
When I elected for cosmetic circumcision at age of 36, my only regrets are, that I left it so long to get cut and that I never watched the minor surgery..
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Richard (Clentboy)
8/11/2018 11:11:01 pm
PeteS,
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PeteS
9/11/2018 09:06:18 am
That's interesting! I think yours must have been an unusual situation, just as mine was (but the other way round). I'm sure regional differences in cut rates are part of the explanation but, from comments on this site, that cannot be the only factor. Thanks for your encouragement.
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I was the other way round. I went to uni up north. I played quite a bit of football and rugby while there and saw quite a lot of guys naked changing or in the showers. The only cut guys I saw were me, my housemate Tom (who's father was Jewish) from Wales and Jem, a Geordie. Jem has the distinction of having both the tightest circumcision I have seen and the largest cock! I only ever saw him soft, of course, but I couldn't see a millimetre of loose skin on the shaft. I would also say that his cock, while soft, was twice the size of mine when hard. It was an amazing appendage!
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/11/2018 03:59:13 pm
Nick, PeteS, Andrew,
PeterS
9/11/2018 04:44:31 pm
I love your story about Queens Club! That must have been a shock ... for both of you!
Andrew
9/11/2018 12:10:36 am
Does anybody else remember a group of boys being circumcised following first year secondary medical exams - it was quite the norm at my school to see a group of boys returning after the holidays with newly exposed heads to their penises - I certainly have this as a memory
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/11/2018 12:19:06 am
Andrew,
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Dwayne
23/6/2019 11:51:45 pm
Richard, I similarly had an I descended testicle which was picked up at the school medical before secondary school and was subsequently operated on. You had a lucky escape, it was painful and I have a huge scar from near base of penis running up my abdomen about six inches. Funny thing is, I remember vividly coming round from the general and checking to see if they’d also circumcised me while they were there. Pure wishful thinking!
David
29/11/2018 02:40:30 pm
I remember being examined at primary school by a female doctor in front of my mum and a note being made that might tight foreskin should be looked at again. When I was 12 rising 13 my younger brother and I were both changing to a new school and a physical was required. Back to back appointments were booked with our family GP during half term so he could examine us, fill in the forms, which could then be returned to the school. I remember the night before the exam my dad saying to mum to remind the doctor to check my foreskin. So I new a potentially akwared exam was in store - just what you want at that age. After breakfast we headed to the surgery. I waited reading a book for maybe 15 to 20 minutes whilst my brother was seen. My mum was in with him but when his exam was finished she left to drop him at a friends then was coming back for me. So my exam started with just me and our GP. Just as I as it had got to the point of me being asked to pull my pants down for the hernia check and testicular exam there was a knock on the door and my mum came in. Once the doctor had checked my tested he said well we had better follow up on that other issue. I think I blushed at this point as he turned his attention to my long and tight foreskin. After what was in reality a quick exam (although it didn't feel it at the time) he turned to my mum and said yes probably time to go ahead with the circumcision. We were covered on my dad's work private health care policy so the subsequent school holiday I was opperatee at a local private hospital having turned 13 by now. Dad took me to the initial consultation with the surgeon there which was a bit less embarrassing than having had mum at the GP exam.
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Sean
29/11/2018 05:07:02 pm
Interesting recollection David. Were tight foreskins common in your family? did your brother also have to be circumcised. How about your father do you know whether he was/is cut or not?
Andrew
29/11/2018 11:54:55 pm
Thank you David
David
3/12/2018 11:45:11 am
@Sean my Dad and my brother aren't circumcised. We used to play squash in my teens so I have seen them both. We all have quite large glans which may have been a factor in my tightness but no neither of them had my issue.
Andrew
4/12/2018 10:57:43 am
I guessed that you had probably had the same reaction that I experienced - Did you want to be circumcised at that point : or were you scared of what was suggested - or was it just a nervous reaction.
Dwayne
23/6/2019 11:44:07 pm
Where I grew up the school medical was done before leaving primary school year 6 with circumcisions being done during summer holiday before starting secondary school. I went to a boys grammar school with a wide catchment area and none of my former classmates who went there with me had it done. It didn’t occur to me that any of boys in my year might have only just been circumcised when I first encountered them in PE or games afternoon communal showers.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/11/2018 11:37:01 pm
PeterS Never worry mate about your status also in the locker room was an australian gentleman who retired a couple of years ago at Queens and now take part in his countries Daviis Cup team & i can assure he to was a roundhead also my utter incompetence on my first day at Queens was a real eye opener excuse the pun so never worry or stress mate i got the strong feeling i was in the minority!!!
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PeteS
10/11/2018 04:10:13 pm
I don't worry about my status much any more, and that's not only because I am rarely in public with my kit off these days. It's also because I have managed to get rid of most (but not yet all) of the baggage I carted around with me all my life until recently. So I'm very much OK now, thanks. My issues are now mostly in the past but it's great comparing notes on this site with others who had the same issues about being the "odd man out" as I always was or, at least, as I always felt.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
10/11/2018 06:58:01 pm
PeteS thats good to hear mate I hope my comments have shown.on this site you could have a tight foreskin like mine but at times i have been in minority in the UK thats life isnt it and I do not mean Esther!!!!
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PeteS
11/11/2018 03:35:19 pm
Yes, I can see exactly what you mean. Whatever you have or don’t have, you can still be in one minority or another. Thanks!
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Richard (ClentBoy)
19/11/2018 05:59:17 pm
Gentlemen
PeteS
20/11/2018 10:49:24 am
I would like to second that vote of thanks! I have never found a site like this before but it is great. It has helped me a lot and others too, it seems. The creators and administrators are providing a valuable service!
Sean
19/11/2018 07:34:28 pm
Richard you have reminded me of more than half my lifetime ago when I had a foreskin how it could irritate during the hot summer months I'm glad that is just a distant memory for me. How tight is your foreskin can it easily be retracted? You mention that you once asked your Doc to look at it so obviously you were aware that potentially it could cause you a problem. Has it got tighter as you have got older? Is it particularly long as if so just removing the overhang could be an option.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
19/11/2018 07:48:52 pm
Sean,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
19/11/2018 07:57:34 pm
Sean, Richard, have you looked into the possibility of having a dorsal slit? Unlike a circumcision you lose no skin, they merely cut it open underneath the head. This would make it much easier to keep clean. I don't know how common the procedure is, but it is a possibility if you want to hang on to your foreskin.
Richard (ClentBoy)
19/11/2018 09:00:58 pm
Sean,
Richard (ClentBoy)
19/11/2018 09:04:20 pm
Apolgies Nick.I addressed that last post to Sean in error Sorry mate Hi Richard. There is another procedure called a preputioplasty They find where the skin has gone tight and then they remove a small ring of skin and rejoin the cut edges. If successful you end up with a slightly shorter foreskin that you can actually pull back. Of course if it does not fix the problem you will end up having to be circumcised. I don't know if the NHS offer this or not. I suppose it depends on how eager you are to keep your foreskin. If you want to stay as intact as possible then look in to the preputioplasty. If you are not too bothered and just want the problem solving without the risk of having to go under the knife more than once then go straight for the circumcision.
Richard (ClentBoy)
20/11/2018 10:10:58 am
Hello Nick,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
20/11/2018 06:32:57 pm
Andrew,
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Andrew
23/11/2018 05:01:09 pm
My advice is take the plunge. You won’t regret it
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Andrew
21/11/2018 06:11:05 pm
In reply to PeteS
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PeteS
22/11/2018 02:32:01 pm
Thanks again! I am fascinated at the insight into that world and how different it is from our society!! It must be a sight to see boys walking round in their special costumes. Everyone, including the boys, knows the significance and yet it is perfectly normal.
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Andrew
22/11/2018 04:23:26 pm
The big difference is the Turks regard it as secular as well as religious - Turkish boys are circumcised because they are Turkish - and even if a family is not particularly religious they are still keen to celebrate the event as it is seen as a key celebration for the boy.
PeteS
23/11/2018 01:27:56 pm
Even more information which is new to me! I did not know that circumcision is anything more than a religious rite in Turkey. A key celebration even if the family is not particularly religious?!!! Wow! It sounds as if it is on a par with an 18th birthday.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
23/11/2018 05:16:22 pm
Andrew,
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Andrew
23/11/2018 05:03:45 pm
You should go toTurkey. Great country with lovely people
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It is good to have posts from intact guys like Richard. I was circumcised as an infant so have no concept of how a tight foreskin is particularly unpleasant during hot weather; does warm weather cause problems for guys with retractable foreskins too? I also have never encountered smegma. Does it really smell that bad and is it a pain to keep an intact dick clean?
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Richard (ClentBoy)
25/11/2018 01:13:18 pm
Hello Nick
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PeteS
25/11/2018 05:48:12 pm
Many thanks for the information. Perhaps it’s not as bad as I had thought although you have obviously had some problems.
Will
26/11/2018 02:43:02 pm
I seem to recall - probably from the old Acorn Society newsletters - that south-east Wales was always a high circ area. I did read that it may have been to do with working in the pits. Rather like desert sand + foreskin = problem, so does coal-dust + foreskin.(I also believe that in the heat down there, many of the men worked totally naked.) No idea if that's true, but it's interesting if it's carried over now the pits are more-or-less gone.
PeteS
26/11/2018 03:08:27 pm
Interesting, Will! I was born in Liverpool!!!
James
26/11/2018 04:17:01 pm
One theory I've read about the high circ rate in Wales is down to the fact that young boys often worked naked in the coal pits. A foreskin would present obvious cleanliness issues in that situation. Perhaps the custom lives on?
PeteS
25/11/2018 05:44:57 pm
Many thanks for asking those questions. If I had had the courage of my convictions, I would have asked the same. I feared I was showing my ignorance but, like you, I know nothing about what it’s like to have a foreskin. I have always thought that they look as if they would be uncomfortable although I assume that they cannot all be, at least not all the time. I still think I would find it uncomfortable to have a double layer of skin around my helmet but maybe it wouldn’t.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
25/11/2018 06:00:07 pm
PeteS
Richard (ClentBoy)
25/11/2018 06:06:20 pm
Correction
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PeteS
25/11/2018 06:10:41 pm
(Don't worry, I spotted your "deliberate" mistake!)
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Richard (ClentBoy)
25/11/2018 06:15:48 pm
PeteS
Richard (ClentBoy)
25/11/2018 06:36:31 pm
PeteS
PeterS
25/11/2018 07:06:14 pm
Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
26/11/2018 02:57:38 pm
Will
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Solymar
26/11/2018 05:30:07 pm
Another uncut here with a fascination with cut. I've lived in SW England for around 20 years and have visited South Wales often. I'm not sure about the 70% estimate but I'd back-up that circumcision rates, certainly in SE Wales, are higher than just across the Severn bridges.
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Andrew
26/11/2018 11:27:48 pm
I have supporting evidence for that as well - several years ago (when my boys were teenagers) their rugby team played against a team from near to Merthyr and after the game they changed and showered at the local leisure center - I believe they even went for a swim as well as the pool had slides etc)
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Will
1/12/2018 10:07:44 am
Thanks, Richard - that's very interesting.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
26/11/2018 07:04:35 pm
Solymar
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Richard (ClentBoy)
29/11/2018 05:21:28 pm
David & Sean
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Sean
29/11/2018 07:48:22 pm
Richard, I too find it amazing that your experience with the medical profession and your long tight foreskin should be the exact opposite of Richard’s. I have good friend whose father was a GP back in the 60s and later, in the Droitwich area, probably not far from where you grew up. He often relates funny stories about his father’s profession and on one occasion I recall discussing circumcision with him. He told me his father was very much against it, which explains, he told me, why he and his brothers were left intact. I wonder Richard if when your foreskin was examined as a child, the doctor at that time may have had equally strong views against circumcision. The more I read posts to this forum from those in the UK who were cut as youngsters and those who weren’t it all seems to be very much a postcode lottery.
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Andrew
1/12/2018 07:43:09 pm
I do think that there is at least a familial component in all this
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Sean
2/12/2018 06:43:37 pm
Andrew – Interesting comment that you also think that foreskin size and shape is hereditary. I know Richard has given a different perspective by pointing out that his Father’s foreskin barely covered the glans, totally opposite to his own long and tight foreskin. This has reminded me of a Father and son I once worked with. Once a week, a group from work would swim at the nearby leisure centre during our lunchtime. Whilst changing I noticed that the father also had a foreskin that barely covered his glans whilst his sons was fairly long. This has got me wondering about guys with short foreskins as to whether it has ever been common, to partially circumcise newborns by just removing part, mainly the overhanging part of the foreskin beyond the tip of the glans. Leaving the owner to grow up with a foreskin that didn't totally cover the head and perhaps thinking that they were uncircumcised. Now this may just be wishful thinking on my part to support my hereditary theory, unless anyone else has come across this type of circumcision being practiced in the UK
Richard (ClentBoy)
29/11/2018 08:28:08 pm
Hi Sean
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PeteS
30/11/2018 04:09:56 pm
Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
30/11/2018 12:07:19 am
Andrew
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Richard (ClentBoy)
30/11/2018 04:21:06 pm
Yes PeteS I agree fully agree with your comments Dont forget though the lads I see at my cousions husbands lesiure center in south wales who are neither posh or wealthy but in the main working class welsh lads who are majorty cut the wealthy southerns quote is how I percieved circumcision at 25 at 50 thanks to the invaluable comments from you and others and the wide difference here in Worcestershire I know better now but i am sure will agree this forum has bought people and thoughts together you never thought possible and our ongoing conversations have been brilliant
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PeteS
1/12/2018 11:06:34 am
Absolutely, Richard! I could not agree more with what you say about this site. Indeed, I never thought it possible to exchange thoughts and experiences in this way! It is like a breath of fresh air and I cannot express how much it is helping me get rid of the baggage I've mentioned before. One of the many things I like and value is that we all express our views calmly and respectfully even when they differ. So many circ sites are blighted by mud-slinging and disrespect ON BOTH SIDES. I've always thought that that was unnecessary and this super site proves that!
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Steven
1/12/2018 03:39:08 pm
I totally agree this site has provided me with an outlet for issues I've never really been able to discuss. It even helped me open up to my younger brother, who also circumcised recently to find out if he felt the same. He was much more relaxed about it, and hasn't shared the same anxieties I have, but it was great to finally be able to have a conversation about it with someone, even if his feelings are different.
PeteS
1/12/2018 06:21:13 pm
My situation is similar to yours, Steven! I too was not able to discuss the issues I have had. A couple of months ago, I finally opened up to a good friend. We have known each other for years but I discovered only last year that he too was circumcised. Like your brother, he was very relaxed about it all and thought I had to “go for it” when the situation presented itself. When it did, I “went for it”, even though he had never had the issues I had. It was a liberating experience! Unfortunately, I can meet up with that friend only very occasionally. That was why/when I started to post to this site. It is a wonderful way to continue a dialogue with others who have similar experiences or even very different ones!
Steven
30/11/2018 06:19:06 pm
It seems im slightly younger than most contributors on this forum, being in my early 30's, so that alone is probably a factor in my experience of being in the minority as a circumcised guy at school in the south east.
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Most people listen to the opinion of their GP, so if your parents did not have a strong view on circumcision it is easy to see how a GP recommending it could persuade them to get it done. I found out that my penis was different at five when I saw my seven year old cousin's hooded dick. He then pulled his foreskin to make his look like mine and the penny dropped. So being able to pull the skin back before puberty is normal, as is not being able to. Not being able to pull your foreskin back at fifteen would be a reason to circumcise, but doing so for that reason at five seems to be a very proactive treatment! I imagine that your GP was a fan of circumcision; it is hard to believe he was unaware that being unable to retract your foreskin at five was not unusual.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
30/11/2018 06:24:23 pm
Steven
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Richard (ClentBoy)
3/12/2018 12:20:55 pm
I do wonder now if and im sure is not if but when I do have this too look forward too I do envy u all.already cut anyway I have out of the blue a late engagement I didnt expect which may give the sight some new sightings I will let you all.know asap
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David
3/12/2018 06:07:16 pm
Very intriguing. After some of your comments on here I feel the cut or not page on this website should have been updated...
Richard (ClentBoy)
4/12/2018 11:26:06 am
Nick & Andrew
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Richard (ClentBoy)
4/12/2018 04:46:01 pm
Sorry lads just a quick correction I did my earlier post on a West Midlands Travel bus and somehow missed this out when i posted it my good friend and work collegue who was at the A&E at the QE having i his emergency circumcision was told by his nurse practioner who was leading his emergency treatment who said she saw 6 to 7 lads in A&E each month with torn banjo strings who couldnt be stiched and needed a circ asap
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Richard (ClentBoy)
5/12/2018 09:32:47 am
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Richard (ClentBoy)
10/12/2018 04:19:15 pm
Gentlemen
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James
10/12/2018 09:19:20 pm
Would the GB doubles player that you spotted perhaps be from north of the border?
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Richard (ClentBoy)
10/12/2018 09:37:57 pm
James
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David
16/12/2018 02:38:10 pm
Some cut Spaniards in that list of tennis players.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
16/12/2018 03:04:09 pm
Funny enough when I was at Uni in Brum both Spanish lads I knew from Swiming were both cut its something I never discussed but perhaps its a middle class rite somehow in Spain the one German chap i got to know was also cut but the French & Italitan lads were intact like me I only thought this today
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GT
22/12/2018 08:51:20 am
My first post here, as I've just found this website! I grew up uncut in the UK in the 50/60s, and until the age of about 14yo had fairly severe phimosis. It was never noticed or diagnosed, however I was made aware of it by a cut friend. I spent a long time (quite painful, and with occasional blood!) stretching my foreskin and succeeded, but it left me with very bad feelings about foreskin! I knew in my teens I wanted to be circumcised, but it was not something I could talk to my parents about. As soon as I had money/opportunity, I was cut, at the age of 35yo, but it was not a good result. The doctor left it way too loose, and lop-sided, more skin on one side than the other, so in 2015 I went to the Luton clinic for a revision circ. Great result, and very happy with it now! I'm medium cut (1.5cm of inner skin) and very tight - just how I wanted it in the first place! I still think getting circumcised was the best thing I ever did!!
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David
22/12/2018 02:29:14 pm
GT glad your revision went well. I am having a revision done on my circumcision in the New Year.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
22/12/2018 06:54:16 pm
GT
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Terry
24/12/2018 07:37:08 pm
Some very interesting topics on this forum - here's my contribution.
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Sean
26/12/2018 09:51:01 pm
Thanks Terry for an interesting story, I think it demonstrates how when that awareness of circumcision get into our psyche, even at a very early age we want to experience it for ourselves. In my case, even though I was circumcised as an adult, and at that time I was under no pressure to get cut as it was just offered as one option to solve a foreskin issue that I had, I jumped at the opportunity, perhaps because of a desire to be like some of my school mates that had been with me since my childhood.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 05:13:45 pm
Have been following the webchat with my cousion in Weatherspoons Halesowen many congratulations it went very very well and what a forum to allow many with anxietys to open up in a serious but fun forum brilliant.
Terry
27/12/2018 05:51:16 pm
Hi Sean,
Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 06:00:45 pm
Terry,
Sean
27/12/2018 07:06:31 pm
Thanks Terry for the update, interesting story.
Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 07:27:23 pm
Hi Sean,
Being cut I was in a minority at school: about 80% of the lads in my year were uncut. It seems like circumcision was rare at Richard's school. Quite a few of the cut lads at my school were from very working class backgrounds but with my GP offering free circumcisions for infants at his clinic I can see why some of these lads would get cut. Even if their fathers were uncircumcised themselves they might see this as a positive step for their children.
Andrew
28/12/2018 07:38:00 pm
It is strange that even at that young age most of us can remember seeing - being fascinated by - and wanting to look like a circumcised friend or relative.
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14/3/2023 09:41:46 am
Great news Terry, I myself after many years keeping my foreskin pulled back, glued it once got cosmetic circumcised. My scar is 1/4” behind gland, frenulum left intact at my request, this was done 18 years ago.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 07:35:06 pm
Sean
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Sean
27/12/2018 07:47:37 pm
Richard we are all waiting on that mate you have laid the gauntlet down now so you will have to follow it thtough. You eill certainly have all the support you need from the guys here plus we will need a detailed blow by blow account
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Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 07:59:06 pm
Sean,
Sean
27/12/2018 08:12:27 pm
I know the QE well I have made many visits there with my daughter due to her illness my grandson was born tbere too. Richard I wiash you good health for 2019 and hope your with us for many more years. I am sure they will look after you . After that sad information I wish I was there to share a drink in dpoons with yoiu you seem like a great guy
terry
27/12/2018 08:01:06 pm
Richard (ClentBoy)
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Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 08:17:33 pm
Hello Terry
Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 08:29:14 pm
Sean
Terry
27/12/2018 08:38:16 pm
Hi Richard (ClentBoy),
Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 08:44:35 pm
And Terry,
Sean
27/12/2018 08:48:07 pm
I'm up for a trip to Brum Richard I live in Glos. I have already agreed with THUK to pass on my email to anyone who asks
Richard (ClentBoy)
27/12/2018 09:01:13 pm
Righto Sean,
Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 11:25:36 am
Hello Nick,
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Sean
28/12/2018 11:47:29 am
Nick you mentioned in the webchat that your dad was very pro circumcision why do you think that was and would he often talk about it
Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 12:32:49 pm
Sean To Sean. He didn't speak about it often but after I went swimming with my older uncut cousin and realised I had a bit missing I asked him about it and he explained about me being circumcised so I could keep clean etc. - it was clear he regarded it as a necessity. Although we are C of E and not religious, he was always very admiring of Jewish people, mainly because he regarded universal circumcision as being very civilised. The one other time I remember him talking about it was when I was a teenager and my five year old cousin had been playing in a paddling pool. He saw his uncircumcised penis when changing and was horrified. I remember him saying to my mother that a son of his would have been circumcised by now and was disappointed with my aunt and uncle for leaving him intact. I believe he thought my cousin's parents had failed in their parental duties by allowing him to keep his foreskin.
Paul W
28/12/2018 06:30:04 pm
Terry and Richard,
PeteS
28/12/2018 05:36:04 pm
1) Richard (ClentBoy)
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Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 05:44:36 pm
PeteS
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Sean
28/12/2018 06:07:11 pm
HI Richard its me that lives in the Cotswolds Wocester is only a short train ride away so would love to join you on your return. Keep in touch THUK have my email
PeteS
28/12/2018 06:31:08 pm
1) Richard (ClentBoy)
Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 07:58:15 pm
Sean look forward to it mate we will get something sorted when i am back while PaulS it seems there was a masive cultural circ difference between me and the lads i met at uni from the south east we were all born 1967/8/9 and i think threre must have been an upper middle class circ normality six of them all cut who arent married or in a relationship are joining me to to one of our old haunts in Digbeth on new years eve and staying withme the oddest thing is my mum and dad due to my work always were able to attended wimbeldon for the 2 weks each year for over 15 years it was quite funny that my mates parents who were lovley and very kind to me and always made me welcome but it must have seemed I had come from mars as they were very similar to margo and jerry from the good life but after uni due to my job they used to get to go to wimbeldon for the day too thanks to the working class lad with the thick brummie accent thier sons used to bring home from uni which i know from my mates used to impress thier friends who couldnt get tickets for love nor money its a funny world isnt it.
Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 08:13:58 pm
Sorry that was to PaulW not S apologies
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PaulW
28/12/2018 08:56:14 pm
Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
28/12/2018 09:17:13 pm
PaulW
PeteS
2/1/2019 03:38:22 pm
"...circs have died out in that generation"? Do you mean just in your family/area or does your experience suggest a general trend? That would be a disturbing development.
Paul C
30/12/2018 01:54:13 am
Really sorry that I couldn't take part in the webchat; I would have loved to but unfortunately was in transit at the time.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
1/1/2019 01:45:03 pm
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Sean
1/1/2019 08:55:28 pm
Happy new Year to you all and look forwards to meeting some of you guys in 2019
Richard (ClentBoy)
1/1/2019 09:14:02 pm
Sean
Richard (ClentBoy)
2/1/2019 05:03:05 pm
PeteS,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
2/1/2019 07:45:29 pm
PeteS
PeteS
3/1/2019 10:19:23 am
Richard (ClentBoy)
Richard (ClentBoy)
3/1/2019 11:05:14 am
PeteS
Richard (ClentBoy)
3/1/2019 04:23:50 pm
I remember that post from Nick. I'd love to know whether my local GP offered such a service back then but I doubt whether I ever will. Adverts in the local paper?!! Amazing!
That GP's practice still does minor surgery these days, including removal of skin tags and cysts etc. though I doubt they still do circumcisions. I always presumed that they did circumcisions for free, but there may have been a nominal charge. I doubt there was anything fancy about the service though. I imagine I was sat on the doctor's padded bench minus my pants while the doctor chatted to my dad and saw to me with a scalpel and forceps!
otherRichard
4/1/2019 06:03:32 pm
Born in Loveday St maternity hospital B'hm too thou' I always understood that the hospital refused to circumcise me and the deed fell to our local GP. It was wartime, 1944, so perhaps circ was not regarded as an essential thing to do.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
4/1/2019 06:16:44 pm
OtherRichard
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Richard (ClentBoy)
5/1/2019 10:26:56 am
Hello Lads,
Jamie
15/1/2019 12:26:54 am
My first realisation was when swimming in primary school, we had to share a cabin with another boy. My partner noticed my circumcised penis and exclaimed ‘what’s wrong with your willy?’ I said I didn’t know...
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Sean
15/1/2019 05:09:29 pm
Hi Jamie, always good to hear someone elses story. Also if you know, the how and why and when you were circumcised. Also the area and time you grew up as there seems to be regional differences in the UK in the attitude towards circumcision.
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Andrew
16/1/2019 11:21:46 pm
How old where you then
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Jamie
22/1/2019 08:14:52 pm
Hi all and sorry for the late reply. Jamie, thanks for sharing your story. It must have been difficult being the only cut boy in your year at school. At my high school in the early eighties, quite a few of us were circumcised and it did make it easier to come to terms with. I too often come across cut guys at my local gym and I am sure people notice my bare helmet when I am changing or showering. I had a discussion with one guy who was circumcised as an adult (long before I met him) because he had a long overhanging foreskin, disliked the way it looked, and was always having to pull the skin back when peeing to stop it behaving like a garden sprinkler! There are plenty of people (both male and female) who prefer a nice, neat circumcised dick.
Joe
20/1/2019 05:32:27 pm
Like you school swimming classes were an obviously opportunity for comparison, and for me an awkward experience as a circumcised kid, being very much the odd one out in my year.
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Andrew
22/1/2019 10:37:29 am
I am sorry that you were the odd one out - at least I never had that experience - What was the reaction of other boys to the lad demonstrating his new discovery about his penis?
Richard (ClentBoy)
22/1/2019 10:39:19 pm
Hello Jamie,
THUK
17/1/2019 07:21:24 am
Gents, we are seeking new stories for the Locker Room. Drop us an email if you'd like to have your own circumcision history published.
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Alex
2/2/2019 10:17:12 pm
It was in the showers after games when I was 13 and I saw the boy next to me drop his towel to dry his legs and I saw that the head of his penis was exposed. I knew about pulling the foreskin back because I’d just learnt to start doing it myself, but I twigged he didn’t have a foreskin. I used to stand next to him at the urinals at school and sneak a peak again - he was definitely cut! It wasn’t the biggest penis but it was a lovely circumcision and the first one I’d seen up close. There weren’t many circumcised penises in my school year.
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Alex
4/2/2019 12:00:11 pm
I don’t mind you asking at all :)
David
4/2/2019 03:50:42 pm
Alex I have known guys who have very short foreskins and can appear cut the even. Do you find your glans are less sensitive like the glans of those of us who are circumcised?
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Alex
4/2/2019 08:56:22 pm
It’s difficult to say as I’m not cut but I get what you mean. I still have a purple head so it’s still fairly sensitive though it’s comfortable being exposed when wearing boxers or briefs. I do tend to keep it pulled back as I like the feeling plus it’s a turn on. Whenever I’m naked in public (swimming pool showers or occasionally a nudist beach) I make a point of keeping my foreskin pulled back and yes, I have been mistaken for being circumcised once or twice.
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Will
5/2/2019 10:38:24 am
Before I was circumcised I kept my foreskin pulled back all the time, and I was often assumed to be circumcised. I think that many guys have a mindset that exposed glans = circumcision! Especially in the UK, where the usual NHS style is quite loose, and leaves a roll of skin behind the head that looks like a retracted foreskin.
David
5/2/2019 09:28:57 am
Sounds like you enjoy the ambiguity Alex :-)
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Alex
5/2/2019 11:28:02 am
I think because circumcision is uncommon in the UK that you will get attention for having an exposed glans (even from guys who would consider themselves straight).
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I think you are right about the attention. I often notice that men check me out when I am at the urinal, and most of them are probably straight. I think my dick is average in size but I do have a large bare helmet and I am sure it is my circumcision that intrigues them. When I was younger I was anxious about showing my cut dick, these days I don't mind if other guys want to take a peek.
Alex
5/2/2019 11:26:01 am
I think it’s a generational thing, maybe because circumcision is more common in older people? I can’t recall pulling the skin back being something that was taught or talked about among my peers, and yes if you did have it skinned back then the assumption was you were circumcised
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otherRichard
6/2/2019 02:59:09 pm
I think the age thing is really relevant here. Growing up circumcised in the 50's my experience was that some boys were like me and some were not. I guess it was noted but no big deal. You were either in one club or the other. I think it is now very different when the norm is uncircumcised. I certainly feel very much in the minority at the gym, sauna etc. Often the only circumcised man there and yes people are curious and yes they do check out the difference. Thou' I think the availability of usa porn has made people more aware of circumcision. All this adding to the intrigueing question as to how and why some young guys are cut. I always long to ask.
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Terry
7/2/2019 09:27:11 pm
Like Richard, I too grew up in UK in the 50's and was a member of both clubs (uncut until age 13 then cut) and neither status was a big deal except perhaps some passing interest in my changed status. I have lived in the USA for the past 19 years and don't think I've ever seen an uncut guy in any locker room (pool or gym) although there were a handful at my local nudist club so I feel very much at home here.
Alex
8/2/2019 10:33:43 pm
I’m curious to know when those of you who are uncircumcised still or who were circumcised later in life started to pull their foreskin back. I don’t think there is an average age as some obviously started young but I remember my cousin showing me he could pull his back after showing me his new trick after we went swimming once (he was 11) and I could too by the time I was 13, but I think knowing that you can do that makes you more aware of what the foreskin is and how some guys don’t have one.
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Will
9/2/2019 01:28:59 pm
I can remember my mother trying to pull mine back int he bath when I was about 6 or 7, but it was of course quite tight, and hurt. For some reason, it was left alone, and it was not till I was about 12 that she asked if I was pulling back to wash - I daresay there was a smeggy smell! I was told that if I did not do so, then I would have to be circumcised, which would be painful. (There were some circumcised boys in my class, but they'd all been done as RICs, I think.) So over the next few weeks I gradually persuaded it to come loose, and there was no problem after that - well, not after I'd got the glans to be less sensitive! So I was always aware of having a foreskin.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/2/2019 01:40:54 pm
Hello lads have returned from down under with Andy Murrays penis everywhere and with me having some kind of wierd flu off the plane have not yet emerged from under the duvet anyway I have to say I havent been able to pull my foreskin back since my teens with such a long tight overhang my bellend is a very distant memory
Terry
9/2/2019 09:31:55 pm
Hi Alex,
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Clive
12/2/2019 02:29:52 pm
I cant remember I time when I could not pull back my foreskin - I was told later that the doctor advised parents to retract a boy's foreskin as soon as possible. This was certainly the case at the village school I attended. We often had competitions to see who could pee as high as a line drawn on a tree or wall. All the boys who joined in this competition pulled back their foreskin to enable a better aim. There was only one boy who did not join in and a short while later he arrived with a newly circumcised penis. He proudly displayed his new look and was asked if having the glans bare all the time hurt. We were all interested as we knew that if we left our own foreskins pulled back we found the sensitivity very painful. I remember his reply 'It tickles a bit at first but you soon get used to it', I thought he was very 'macho' being able to take the pain. It was later, in my early teens when I remembered his remark and decided to be 'macho' myself and started keeping my foreskin pulled back. At that age I did not realise that the glans would become less sensitive, however as a result of this keeping back my foreskin I had adult circumcision. My only regret is that I was not circumcised much earlier in my life.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/2/2019 06:10:40 pm
Forgot to add before it tightened up forever I can remember the exact date I pulled my foreskin back the first time after it I went into puberty it was Sunday 20th December 1981 and I was 13 and how I remember it I had my sunday bath and pulled it back after the Radio 1 chart show & Human League were No1 with Dont You Want Me Baby still love that song.
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Sean
9/2/2019 07:11:04 pm
Richard, Good to have you back, looking forward to an update of your sightings down under.
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Sean
9/2/2019 07:13:38 pm
Sorry Alex that comment was meant for you not Will
Alex
9/2/2019 08:02:30 pm
Very well remembered, it’s funny how unforgettable these experiences are. I remember the first time I was able to pull mine back all the way by myself, I was 12 at home on my own and sat in the living room chair. I’d been trying to do it for ages in the bath but I was nervous to in case it got stuck behind the head (mine was quite big even then) and because it was tight at first. I succeeded and inevitably gained a stonking erection in the process. The head was SO incredibly sensitive but I started pumping the shaft skin and quickly came in the process - the first time I ever had (I was nearly 13). I remember scuttling off to the bathroom with my pants around my ankles, clutching my still erect penis with the foreskin very much retracted, and cleaning myself up with tissues which became stuck to the glans. It hurt but I was very excited that I had succeeded in seeing the head of my penis for the first time and the “white stuff” come up finally. It was quite the afternoon!
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Richard (ClentBoy)
9/2/2019 08:44:21 pm
Funny enough Alex I remember that night in bed as if it was yesterday and my first experience was much the same as yours I remember the next day it was school holidays and why dont you was on bbc1 and my pyjamas being just like cardboard and my lovley late mum never said a word when they went in the wash!
David R
6/3/2019 03:16:21 am
My first time pulling back the foreskin was when I was 11 after bathing. It had the effect of giving me an instant erection and I was unable to get the foreskin back over the glans. This was quite scary as an eleven year old. I wasn't sure whether I had caused some damage to myself. It eventually slid back as the erection subsided sometime later.
Alex
10/2/2019 09:05:04 am
Like you Richard I was excited at (finally) being able to ejaculate. Earlier that year I was staying at my younger cousin’s and was getting changed after a bath, I remember picking up a pair of boxers thinking they were mine but they were his - and also stained with semen! I remember feeling despondent because I already knew he could pull his foreskin back (having given me an impromptu demonstration) and was now able to come. I could do neither (yet) and he was around 18 months younger than me too. I didn’t have to wait too much longer though :)
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Sean
10/2/2019 07:11:01 pm
I feel a little disappointed that I don’t have any particular memories of the initial great unveiling as you guys have described which has got me wondering for me when it did happen. Current advice for parents is to leave the foreskin alone and not to try to force it back prematurely and that it will retract by itself when it’s ready, Such advice suggests that perhaps there has been a time when parents of youngsters have attempted to get the foreskin moving early on as Will mentions in his post.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
10/2/2019 07:22:15 pm
Sean i am afraid I have never heard anyone I know mention a partial circ as I have commented before here in Worcs I was surprised at Nicks comments as I always thought it was rare here till I met the posh boys atuni
Richard (ClentBoy)
12/2/2019 09:01:43 am
Nick, Cheers for that I do have to admit to being a fan of the TOTP reruns on Thursdays and Fridays on BBC FOUR I would recommend that to all our age interesting a bit off topic there's very little about the 80s pop stars on the site is there from the variations we see across the UK they cant be all uncut I wonder what Phil Oakley is I can tell everyone the Pet Shop Boys are both uncut as a girl asked them on the phones live on Saturday Superstore funny what you remember one of the riggers I work with at Edgbaston has worked with Duran Duran and says the Brummie beefcakes are all uncut except Simon Le Bon who is but he is from the Cotswolds I believe John Moss from Culture Club must be as he is Jewish but the other three who knows and with Depeche Mode being Essex boys you wonder about each of their status. It something that never come up in the NME or Smash Hits but when we holiday in the ALPS in the 80s as a fluent German speaker I used to buy their version called Bravo and amazingly in the interviews that always featured the circumcision status of the interviewees and I was always surprised at the large number of Germans who said they were cut.
Solymar
12/2/2019 01:50:08 pm
80s electronic pop makes up much of my listening even now. On Depeche Mode - founder member Vince Clarke is certainly cut. He appears naked in the photography book "Male Nudes" by Rankin. I assume that this was unusual for a working class lad from Basildon.
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Richard (CentBoy)
12/2/2019 02:47:02 pm
Solymar,
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Paul C
12/2/2019 03:50:03 pm
Incidentally Richard, going back to the topic of regional differences, it's only a one off example but the one mate I have who hails from your neck of the woods (Kidderminster in fact) would definitely say he was a working class lad and he was circumcised when he was 4 or 5 years old. Not sure how that fits in with the rest of the Brum pattern but thought I should mention it!
Solymar
12/2/2019 04:17:04 pm
Richard
Paul C
12/2/2019 03:35:29 pm
Solymar,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
12/2/2019 04:21:52 pm
Paul C, yes 80s pop aside i was bought up close to Halesowen the exact same distance from Kidderminster as your mate about 5 miles as Nick was in Bromsgrove and its has come as big surprise how many cut lads are about from somewhere so close as i mentioned previously I really only became aware of cut lads at uni the mates I went to school with I am with tonight are all uncut we only had one cut lad in our year and he was Jewish and his family had moved into the area even today when I am at our local swimming baths you rarely see anyone cut in the showers its really interesting this on going topic isn't it.
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Sean
12/2/2019 04:37:48 pm
Richard, interesting to hear that you are a German speaker as well, as you will know there is only one letter difference for the German word for circumcised and the normal use of the word cut in the past tense. I remember many years ago while staying with a German friend’s family getting the two words muddled and announcing to my friends dad , when he returned from the hairdressers, Oh you have had you hair circumcised” fortunately he saw the funny sided of it and it embedded those two words in my memory for ever.
Richard (ClentBoy)
12/2/2019 04:53:13 pm
Hello Sean,
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Sean
12/2/2019 07:28:07 pm
Sounds good looking forward to it
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Richard (ClentBoy)
13/2/2019 01:03:08 am
Richard (ClentBoy)
13/2/2019 09:57:24 am
Morning Lads many apologies to James & you all for last night post I was on the 1am 9 bus to Halesowen with lads unlike me had to get up.for normal jobs today unlike me when I went all Germanic after perhaps one bottle of hardys shiraz too many in Broad St Weatherpoons sowing in the seeds of love. We are lucky in Brum that 5 fifty something lads travel to the NEC for £1 each if take the car to the NEC you park mles away in Warwickshire anyway the post roughly translates as its funny.that cut and circumcision are so similar in.German great set from TFF last night.I did wonder with Roland from Portsmouth &.Kurt from Bath.being 59 and lads I.have met at the at work from those areas have both been cut I wonder if they are cut or uncut.it is definatly a Mad World
Richard (ClentBoy)
17/2/2019 03:54:22 pm
Richard (ClentBoy)
17/2/2019 08:22:13 pm
Lads just to let me you a mate has just texed me that although he is not circumcised Dan Evans has beaten current us no1 Donald Young in the ATP250 in Delware which means tomorrow his ranking will be 147 should get into Indian Wells with me next month and could well get auto quallifing to the big W not bad for a dope head from Brum who had 0 ranking this time last year and the reason for the post I can confirm Donald Young is cut from my observations
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Richard (ClentBoy)
20/2/2019 01:23:10 pm
Cant argue with the latest posting on the site this time next week on the plane to Indian Wells as he has split from his coach today one day I am sure I will.have news of the current No1
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Richard (ClentBoy)
20/2/2019 10:56:41 pm
Evening Lads, Just seeen tonight Matt Healy on The Brits is the son of Tim Healy Matt said in his video diary last month he is circumcised but his dad isnt as seen in the full frontal pool sequence in Spain of Series 2 of Auf Widershen Pet now were always on about regional differences like north and south worcestershire but this ones an eyeopener mind you not as much as tonight have finally got over my equine flu to return to Halesowen Lesiure Centre tonight imagine my shock to find three lads in the showers who after me overhearing them are staying in a local travelodge while working on a local building site all I would say from South Wales and all 3 CUT I have no seen 3 cut in those showers in over 40 years of using them god knows what they made of my freaky foreskin what a shock this time next week off to the land of circ i expect it there but not in Halesowen
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David
24/2/2019 09:27:46 am
I wonder given these observations about South Wales if this means that Wales is the sixth nations locker room where a cut cock is most likely to be spotted?
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Richard (ClentBoy)
24/2/2019 09:54:55 am
David,
Pau S
1/3/2019 04:52:06 pm
So, I was routinely circumcised at birth, at the end of the British fad for routine circumcisions - 1949 - just as the NHS was stopping paying for them. I was about 6 or 7 when I first saw a boy with a foreskin and wondered what was wrong with his penis. A few weeks later was New Years day, and for those who grew up Catholic back in the day it was the Feast of the Circumcision. I had no idea what it meant at that age, but some research in the library - I was, and still am, a book nerd - and wow! I found out that a piece of my penis had been cut off. The books were all about Rites of Passage and how circumcision made a boy a man, so I was very pleased with myself. Thereafter began my interest, nay obsession, with the subject. A couple of years later, in Sunday school, the priest (a young naïve Irish guy - quite handsome!) asked if we had any questions. It was January, so I asked about the recently past Feast of the Circumcision and what was it all about? (Of course, I knew already, but it was fun watching him squirm.) He never really answered, so eventually I asked outright "if it's good for Jesus, isn't it good for us. Are you circumcised, Father?" (I was a devil back then!) He mumbled "no" , so I piped up "well I am!". He brought the class to a quick end, and there was no more discussion. I have had several friends still with their foreskins, but I much prefer guys with circumcised penises like mine, even if the relationship is purely platonic.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
6/3/2019 05:47:43 pm
Paul S
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Richard (ClentBoy)
1/3/2019 05:11:46 pm
Paul S,
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Clive
2/3/2019 10:00:01 am
Paul S
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James
12/3/2019 10:09:25 am
An uncircumcised Aussie here first realised there were different sorts of penises when i was about 9 a mate and i went for a pee togetherwhile we were at the urinal he said our hey our dicks are different think he was kinda as supsurprised as i was.
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My Aussie mate Pete (now in his early 50's) told me.that there was only one uncut guy in his year at his Catholic boarding school in Victoria. One of the other lads said to the intact lad, on seeing a foreskin for the first time, that there was something wrong with it and he should see a doctor! Apparently he was then circumcised later that year.
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David R
12/3/2019 11:43:12 pm
I'm an uncircumcised Australian born still earlier in the 1950s when routine infant circumcision was the norm. At that time over 90 per cent of boys were circumcised, something that was clearly evident in the change rooms after PE. I think I only ever saw four uncut penises growing up. Certainly this was where my fascination with circumcision comes from.
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James
13/3/2019 07:34:11 am
Yeah definitely the opposite here in Australia i think David well at least in my experience.
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David R
14/3/2019 12:42:40 pm
Likewise, I've always liked the look of a circumcised penis. When I was younger I often thought about getting circumcised but have dithered too long. Now that I've turned 60 it's probably a bit late now. But even so I sometimes still wonder what it might be like to have a nice looking helmet...
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Will
15/3/2019 11:35:03 am
I wouldn't say it's too late at all. I was circumcised at 57, after many years of shilly-shally and much preferring the look of the circumised penis. Six years later I am very happy I finally had it done - and of course wish I'd had it done when I was 27! It is as much a mental thing as otherwise: if you are not happy with your foreskin then get it sorted. It certainly changed my opinion of myself, and many other men, circumcised in middle age, I have chatted to on other sites say the same.
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David R
15/3/2019 03:33:40 pm
Thanks, Will. Good to hear of your positive experience of a late circumcision. For me, I' be always been attracted to what I perceive as the more aesthetic look of the circumcised penis. Although I have a long foreskin (and I've often thought a tad unsightly) fortunately I don't have any problems.
Richard (ClentBoy)
14/3/2019 02:11:39 pm
David R,
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Richard, I don't imagine that recovering from an adult circumcision is a pleasant experience, but it would solve your problems.
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David R
15/3/2019 03:44:21 pm
Good for you, Richard! It will be interesting to hear how it works out for you.
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Terry
15/3/2019 04:35:39 pm
Hi Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
15/3/2019 04:48:47 pm
Cheers Terry,
Richard (ClentBoy)
14/3/2019 06:06:55 pm
Hello Nick, Always good to hear from you.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
14/3/2019 11:40:16 pm
Nick
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Richard (ClentBoy)
15/3/2019 03:45:43 pm
David R,
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David R
15/3/2019 04:21:14 pm
I am Australian and for me heat has never been a problem! I'm guessing the irritation caused by the heat may be a symptom of other foreskin problems.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
15/3/2019 04:31:16 pm
David R,
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David R
15/3/2019 11:40:25 pm
Hmm that sounds more than just uncomfortable, Richard. I can see why you are looking at circumcision. I'm fortunate my 5cm (2inches) of foreskin slides back easily.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
16/3/2019 04:03:50 pm
Hi Nick,
Terry
16/3/2019 06:40:27 pm
Hi Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
16/3/2019 06:53:06 pm
Thanks Terry for this I will take your comments on.board to be honest o did not realise there was so much difference in a high and low cut I just didnt want such a hard cut you see here in America mate with that wierd stripe & two tone cut
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Terry
16/3/2019 07:46:14 pm
The weird stripe seen here in the USA is the product (and hallmark) of the Gomco clamp commonly used in Routine Infant Circumcisions. In the UK hospitals typically use the guided forceps or sleeve resection method. The Circumcision Center uses the Mogen clamp I believe. The two tone result is due to the differences in the make-up of the external shaft and the remnants of what was the mucosal inner skin of the foreskin which is folded back on itself and sutured to the shaft skin. I have about 1 cm remaining of inner skin and it is paler in colour than the shaft skin but I have no weird stripe or noticeable scar line due to the sleeve resection method used and the suturing skill and methodology of the surgeon. IMHO regarding low/high cut about 2 cm of inner skin is a reasonable compromise between sensitivity/pleasure and risk of STDs.
Richard (ClentBoy)
16/3/2019 07:53:29 pm
Righto Terry you live and learn I have to say the Gomo Clamp sounds like one of Henry VIII torture methods when I am in the changing rooms after my morning swim I have always wondered why so many Yanks cuts were so different to my Uni mates circs with the stripe & two tone skin cheers
Paul W
17/3/2019 09:02:59 am
Terry, I recently had my circumcision revised to make it tighter and to remove the frenulum. Now there's just a neat scar underneath and the result is exactly as you describe, the area is now more sensitive and feels much better than before. The added benefit it that it also looks much neater. And as you say, once the foreskin has been removed the remnants of the frenulum serve no purpose.
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I was circumcised low and tight as an infant. The GP who did the surgery cut through my frenulum. Most of it was removed, but a remnant was left behind. This always seemed a bit sloppy to me: either leaving the frenulum intact or removing it completely would have been better. At least it is otherwise a neat cut. Sometimes GP circs can be rather uneven from what I have heard. The good thing about an adult circ is that the recipient can choose how they want it done. I am not sure if I would have opted to keep my frenulum or had it removed completely. I would have kept more inner skin though, it is just so sensitive. I am sure of one thing, I love being cut tight. There is something wonderful about taut skin on an erect penis.
Paul W
17/3/2019 02:47:34 pm
Nick, mine was only partly removed when I was first circumcised and it looked very untidy, which is why I got it removed. Now it's very neat with just a scar left as a reminder!
PeteS
17/3/2019 08:34:51 pm
Nick, Paul W,
PeteS. I have heard that the frenulum might not develop fully after an infant circ but I did not think that was always the case. I am not certain about this though. I was circumcised at two years old: the cut follows the shape of the glans underneath (an inverted v-cut). My frenulum remnant is a raised band of skin which starts under the tip and ends where the inner skin joins the outer skin. The rest of the frenulum (the main part which fans out into ridges of skin) was removed by the circumcision.
PeteS
19/3/2019 08:45:56 am
I was circumcised at age three. I do not know whether the frenulum could have been fully developed by that age. My scar line is uneven which, I believe, is normal for the “tug-and-chop” method popular in the UK. Like yours, my cut follows the shape of the glans underneath and what frenulum I have is a slightly raised band of skin which starts under the tip and ends at the scar line. On that side of the penis, there is just under 1 cm of inner foreskin remaining (compared with almost 2 cm on the upper side). PeteS. I too am not sure by what age the frenulum would be fully developed and how much this varies from person to person. Your cut sounds similar to mine underneath. Your frenulum remnant can't extend beyond where the inner and outer skin are joined so it is likely that the circumcision removed a portion of the frenulum. How developed the frenulum was at the time, so how much of it was removed, is what we don't know.
Terry
17/3/2019 04:35:20 pm
In replying to Paul W and Nick (who both make good points) there is also a pearl of wisdom for Richard to take on board for when he gets round to deciding who will do his circumcision. Nick is unhappy about his frenulum remnant. Paul was unhappy about his partially removed frenulum and loose cut. I was unhappy about my frenulum and loose cut and both Paul and I have had revisions to correct these problems.
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Paul W
17/3/2019 05:54:26 pm
Quite right, Terry. The best thing for anyone looking for an adult circumcision, is to find clinics with good reputations and have a very clear idea about what you want and then insist on it. The best people to talk to are other guys who have been circumcised as adults who will be able to let you know what the clinics are like. Different styles are up to the individual, but I have found that most guys want a properly tight circumcision and that's something to think about. Although mine is now perfect as far as I'm concerned, it was tiresome (and expensive) to land up having a revision.
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Terry
17/3/2019 08:31:38 pm
Thanks Paul for endorsing my words - I would hate for any man to blindly trust just any surgeon for a circumcision and have helped many men make informed decisions via the internet over the years.
Richard(ClentBoy)
17/3/2019 06:02:36 pm
Mates thank.u all for this I will seek.your peer advice as and when we get closer its invaluable ive got to breif we have the ladies final 8pm ur timr
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Terry
17/3/2019 08:34:35 pm
No problem Richard, standing by here to assist when the time is right - helping people is what I like to I do! I have some tips for the healing process too when we get to that point.
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Terry
18/3/2019 03:09:02 pm
Replying to Paul S and Nick on the subject of undeveloped frenulum as a consequence of RIC. As a member of several pro-circumcision web groups I can say that I have read many posts asserting to this phenomena. As a nudist I have seen many adult men who presumably were given infant circumcisions here in the USA and it does seem to be the case that the remaining frenulum does not develop so that the usual outcome is a thin membrane stretching from the apex of the V in the glans to the scar line.
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I do have a bit of frenulum remaining but I was not circumcised until age two: aren't most circumcisions done a few days after birth in the US? I presume this would make a difference. I am cut low, close to the rim of the glans, following its contours all the way round so the area where the bulk of the frenulum would have been is now covered in outer skin. I do think my frenulum remnant is a bit untidy, but I have always enjoyed how sensitive it is: the remnant and the narrow band of inner skin I have left are the most sensitive parts of my penis; my glans feels dull by comparison, but then since it has been fully exposed and rubbing against cloth for almost 50 years this is unsurprising. Until recently I was unaware that the sensitivity in the area of the frenulum remnant would not be lost if it were removed. I would like to know more about this: getting it removed to make the area smooth and neat but keep the sensitivity sounds like a win-win to me!
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Paul W
20/3/2019 07:44:01 pm
Nick, I had my frenulum removed recently and I have found it more sensitive in that area, which is great. It also looks nice and neat and smooth. Whether that would be the same for everyone, who knows?
Richard (ClentBoy)
19/3/2019 12:52:11 pm
Gentlemen just waiting for my flight with Dad for Miami to think I have all this to look fiorward too☺
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Richard. The problem is that there are quite a few variables to consider and what is done can't be undone. If you go for low and tight with frenulum removal you will pretty much be as circumcised as it is possible to be, but what if you miss your frenulum, or wish you had kept more inner skin? A high and loose cut, keeping the frenulum is less of a risk but if you are unhappy with the result you will either have to put up with it or get re-circumcised. I did not get a choice and have always regretted the fact that I was cut so low with most of the sensitive inner skin removed.
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Terry
20/3/2019 07:26:53 pm
For Richard - following on from Nick's comments. The basic variables (choices) are:
Richard (ClentBoy)
20/3/2019 11:32:48 pm
Terry & Nick,
David
17/4/2019 10:29:10 am
Richar (ClentBoy) any news from your recent trips?
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Richard (ClentBoy)
17/4/2019 10:40:20 am
Morning from a wet Monte Carlo David, I wasnt needed in Miami so we came here early as its a restricted draw theres only the usual suspects here so nothing new in sight we head to see whats left of Notre Damm at the next grand slam with a full draw anything I come across you will all be the first know & Kyle Edmund out in Round 1 here!
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Cutlate
26/4/2019 10:49:24 am
I was born in the 1970s in Australia and was one of the few uncuts in a sea of cut guys. I have known about, and been obsessed with, circumcision for as long as I can remember; I can't remember not being aware of what circumcision was. After years of feeling like the odd one out I was finally relieved of my foreskin when I was 26 when I opted to have the snip. I went from being embarrased about my penis to being proud. But it hasn't dimmed my fetish for wanting to read about or hear women talking about their preference for circumcision. Circumcision - and the lack thereof for my first 26 years - has defined my life. I have no doubt that my life would have been different had my parents said "Yes" instead of "No" when asked if they wanted me circumcised. Indeed, from a few asides they've made, I think they believe they should have said "Yes".
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David R
29/4/2019 12:53:07 am
Great to read of your positive outcome. As an uncut Aussie, I can certainly identify with growing up in a 'sea of cut guys'. Likewise, this has made for a lifetime interest in circumcision.
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PeteS
1/5/2019 10:39:58 am
Cutlate, David R,
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Mike Scott
5/5/2019 02:10:28 pm
Hi, It says this area is to tell how we discovered circumcision so here goes, hope I'm not repeating something I've said before.. I didn't see a cut cock till I was 11 when going to senior school. I had tried to keep my forskin back for some reason but it always slipped forward so I gave up. I had a regular partner sharing a changing cubicle at swimming and noticed that Pete could keep his skinned back. Then I stumbled on the biblical story of circumcision. Not sure why, but I found thew words 'circumcise' and 'foreskin' curiously exciting and checked them in the dictionary. I was shocked and somehow excited that they could be cut off and I realised that had happened to Pete. I checked out the Jewish boys and saw they all had exposed knobs.There was only one other non-Jewish cut boy in my year. He had an enormous knob and it looked stunning. I don't remember any desire to be cut until late teens when I read about Arab customs and, frankly, it turned me on. From then on I always wanted to be cut and a few girls told me they preferred it which got me sexually excited. Eventually, I fell in love with a girl who wanted me to be cut so it gave me the excuse to get it done. Never regretted it. I'd also had gay experiences and loved it if I found the guy was cut. Mike
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Bob
5/6/2019 05:30:22 pm
Still no date yet for the BBC circumcision documentary that was announced last year. The BBC’s web page suggests that it may now focus on the religious side of things.
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David
6/6/2019 05:00:25 pm
The reason for bias against circumcision in United Kingdom is due to restriction on availability on National Health Service.
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Andy
9/6/2019 01:00:32 am
Today is the one year anniversary of my circumcision. I was recommended to have the operation done by a doctor but happily it was also my personal preference. In common with earlier contributors, I have found it a positive experience which has brought physical and psychological benefits. My only regret is not having it done sooner! One of the best things about it has been the support and encouragement I have had from other men circumcised as adults, thanks guys 🙂 Andy
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Paul W
9/6/2019 11:59:42 am
That's good news Andy - it's nice to hear from other men circumcised by choice. I agree, the expertise and support form other adult cut guys is great isn't it? Four years after my own circumcision (and seven months after a re-cut) I still love my 'new' cock!
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Andy
17/6/2019 10:26:25 pm
Good to hear you are still enjoying being cut after four years. It really is like having a new cock isn’t it, so much to discover. Great you’ve had it re-done to get it exactly as you want. I don’t think I would ever have actually gone through with it without the support and encouragement of guys such as yourself, so glad I did.
Paul W
18/6/2019 08:55:56 pm
Yes, it's great being circumcised and the revision has given me the perfect result as far as I a concerned. The network of cut guys I have chatted to on the internet and met in person were very helpful in helping me take the plunge and join the ranks of the happily adult-circumcised!
Marc Allen
14/6/2019 04:55:32 pm
Hi David, It is a shame that the NHS has stopped performing elective circumcisions both for adults and boys. I have heard that circumcision is performed in Bradford for Muslims to prevent botched cuts by 'traditional' circumcisers. Someone once questioned if this isn't religious discrimination and if its provided for Muslims it should be available for all religions or none! I imagine that if the cost was met by the patient, or parents, they would still argue it takes up time. For some reason the NHS doctors are strongly anti-circ. I read a post on a group from a bloke who'd been refused cirumcision for phimosis several times in his teens and even again at 22, to see if it cleared up by itself. Reasonable for a 12 year-old, but not someone into their sexual lives. Even so, NHS can't be trusted to cut off more than the minimum amount of prepuce, when a radical and tight cut is best for sex and hygiene. I chose to go privately, but as you say very expensive for a half-hour op.
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I have mixed feelings about RIC. I was cut as an infant and it caused me some issues growing up. I think the NHS is worth funding more generously and, regardless of my reservations, I would make circumcision for infants available on the NHS when requested. If the parents are determined to get their son circumcised it is going to happen one way or another and it is better for this to be done by a qualified medical professional in a clean environment.
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Richard (Clentboy)
15/6/2019 12:18:34 am
Hello Nick & Sean
PeteS
17/6/2019 03:55:57 pm
Nick,
Hi PeteS. I had a look online and there is evidence that being circumcised reduces the risk of getting a UTI, though some of the studies are less clear than others. Of course this is no substitute for a proper review of the available data. The NHS recommendations for obtaining a urine sample do encourage pulling back the foreskin and washing the glans, if uncut, before taking a sample, to prevent a false positive test from the bacteria that accumulate under the foreskin. There was no suggestion that a circumcised dick needed cleaning first.
Andy
14/6/2019 11:41:09 pm
I have some experience with the NHS on this as I had problems with inflammation under the foreskin for years, eventually persuaded my GP to refer me to a urologist. The specialist (from a Muslim background I would say) took one look at me and recommended circumcision as the best option, something I was more than happy to accept. I got fed up with the NHS waiting list though and went private, and haven’t looked back since, Circumcision has sorted out the problem very quickly. I think it should me more easily available on the NHS and offered as a preventative measure, the benefits in terms of health and hygiene are very great.
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Dwayne
21/6/2019 11:34:23 am
I was referred three times for a circumcision, on the first occasion to cure frenulum breve and recurrent thrush and the subsequent two occasions just thrush escalating to balanitis. I also suffered UTIs and had an operation to cure urethral stricture after a few dilation attempts. Long story short, after 20 years suffering I ended up with a NHS circumcision which was expertly done (can't praise the surgeon enough). Best thing ever, haven't had any issue with infections or UTI's in the ten years since. Didn't expect that and as is often said, I wish it had been done years ago (or decades in my case). Hi Marc Allen. I certainly agree with you about the best type of cut. I don't know if my dad had any input, or if it was purely the whim of the doctor who circumcised me but I am cut tight (and low). I wish I had more sensitive inner skin to enjoy, but I do love the tightness of the skin on the shaft: no loose skin when soft, skin pulled taut when hard. I would not want it any other way!
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Richard (ClentBoy)
15/6/2019 06:01:14 am
Hello Nick,
otherRichard
18/6/2019 12:08:03 pm
Nick, I was cut low & tight too and I guess it is the whim of the doc who does the deed and how he was trained to do it. I could certainly do with a bit more sensitive inner skin remaining but that's how it is. That docs decision all that time ago has framed my sex life and response ever since. That's quite a thing when you think about it.
Hi OtherRichard. I totally agree. It probably took my GP about ten minutes to circumcise me but that event has influenced my sexuality and shaped my entire life. The strange thing is that I like being circumcised but I resent not having had the choice.
PaulC
23/6/2019 09:18:45 pm
NIck,
Terry
18/6/2019 02:44:23 pm
Responding to Other Richard - my present status after my original teen circ and two adult revisions is low (about 1cm of inner skin remaining) and tight with frenulum removed. I agree that a little more inner skin would bring more sensitivity but it is what it is and, after the original circ, there was no way that the subsequent revisions could restore what is gone. However, I want to share that it is possible to "train" your penis to improve sensitivity in what inner skin remains - something I have done in my (successful) efforts to overcome ED. As a result this 74 year old enjoys multiple spontaneous erections whenever I wake in the night and again in the morning and with them, the most delightful sensations radiating from my glans and frenular area throughout my perineum without any stimulation from me. I have shared this with other men via the internet who report similar results and so I would be happy to expand on this theme if anyone is interested.
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otherRichard
18/6/2019 03:30:14 pm
Hi Terry (&Nick). We are of the same age Terry & I think my circumcision done by the family gp was the style at the time. A quick 10 minute job on the kitchen table. I share with Nick & many others I know that ambivalence about being circumcised. I like it but have that contradictory feeling of it could have been done better and I didn't have a choice re style etc. Such an arbitrary decision, in my case the whim of my grandmother. Any suggestions re sensitivity improvements much welcomed. And Nick, hyes it is so good to be able to share all this stuff
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Terry
18/6/2019 04:38:21 pm
Nick & Other Richard,
The Real Richard (Clentboy)
18/6/2019 05:32:46 pm
Good Afternoon Gentleman,
Hi 'Real' Richard. Hope the rain doesn't stop play.
The Real Richard ,(ClentBoy)
18/6/2019 06:46:08 pm
Hi Nick,
Terry
18/6/2019 06:37:25 pm
For Nick and the Other Richard....
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The Real Richard (ClentBoy)
18/6/2019 06:55:00 pm
Terry thanks for your very kind concerns I am already under the care of our excellent QE due to having cancer in 2003 & have been under their care since my foreskin is very well known to my clinical team and its tightness has a lot to do with my long term steroid use as part of my treatment plan at some time we were hole will close over and a circ is inevitable I am not bothered with losing it after all the other treatments I have had other the years it's just another my medical procedures my partner not bothered either but thanks for your advice and it's great to be back in.England
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Hi Terry. I am certainly intrigued, and am glad that you are willing to share your experience. I don't have ED but I definitely get fewer spontaneous erections than I used to. Also my dick is more often than not limp when I wake up. Ten years ago even I always woke up with wood. Regarding sensitivity, the only really sensitive part of my penis is the narrow band of inner skin I still have. My glans feels dull by comparison; I only really get pleasurable sensations from it when I am getting close to ejaculation. This dullness is probably down to almost fifty years of rubbing against cloth.
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The Real Richard (ClentBoy)
18/6/2019 07:01:18 pm
Sorry Terry for the ramblings just realised your comments were for the other Richard
Terry
19/6/2019 04:52:47 pm
For Nick & the Other Richard
Terry
19/6/2019 06:13:39 pm
There is a lot Nick but I did warn that it takes time and dedication - hang in there and we'll get to the fun part soon I promise!
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Dwayne
22/6/2019 03:14:22 pm
I didn’t really discover the difference between a circumcised or intact penis, I knew about it from my earliest memories. In a way that was disappointing as there was no moment of revelation with emotion of curiosity, envy or resentment etc. that others may have experienced. I probably knew too much too soon.
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The Real Richard (ClentBoy)
24/6/2019 12:31:57 am
Dwayne
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Terry
22/6/2019 07:54:20 pm
For Other Richard and Nick.
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The "Real" Richard ,(ClentBoy)
22/6/2019 08:11:39 pm
Evening Lads,
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David
23/6/2019 05:37:17 pm
Richard any news on Jo Salisbury? He went to the University of Memphis, so surely will have been exposed circumcised guys there, despite being from Putney.
The Real Richard (ClentBoy)
23/6/2019 06:11:28 pm
Hi David,
Terry
2/7/2019 09:43:07 pm
For Nick and Other Richard on Improving Sensitivity,
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Terry
2/7/2019 09:47:43 pm
Terry
4/7/2019 04:32:27 pm
For Nick and Other Rischard,
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The Real Richard (ClentBoy)
4/7/2019 06:43:02 pm
Terry,
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Terry
4/7/2019 07:28:22 pm
Hi Real Richard,
Hi Terry, I am certainly interested. I have been ill recently. I am itching to try out the wanking techniques you described but I need to recuperate a bit first.
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Terry
5/7/2019 04:42:29 pm
Hi Nick and thanks for getting back to me - sorry to hear of your illness and hope you are recovering.
Sean
5/7/2019 05:01:55 pm
Hi Nick, you have mentioned on these pages a couple of time how pro circ you Dad was and Hi Terry, I wouldn't go as far as premature. I think the issue has a couple of parts. Firstly, while I love masturbating I find sex with another person so much more pleasurable and the excitement of it tends to speed things up. On the physical side I think it is the lubrication (natural or otherwise) that speeds things up. My cock works well when it is moist, not so well dry. I think that this is to do with the style of my circumcision. I was cut as an infant and would say, after some internet research, that I have a radical low and tight circumcision with most of the fren removed too: the type of cut favoured by the Victorian moralist. Hi Sean, the only time I discussed it with my father he was most concerned about hygiene. He thought that it was not possible for an uncut dick to be kept clean. I was brought up CofE and no one in my family is religious but my Dad's parents were Baptists and, while not obligatory, they thought that circumcision brought you closer to Jesus. I am pretty sure that my Dad's brothers were circumcised too. I have tried to talk to my brother about it but he just got embarrassed and clammed up. My brother has daughters so no circs were necessary. My sister has a son but he is uncut like most lads of his age in the UK.
Sean
6/7/2019 06:49:59 pm
That's really interesting Nick. I am sure there were many other parents with similar views, when we were kids. It shows how much attitudes and fashions perhaps have changed over the years
Richard (ClentBoy)
4/7/2019 07:34:54 pm
Thanks Terry
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Richard (ClentBoy)
5/7/2019 05:22:41 pm
Sean,
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Sean
5/7/2019 07:55:28 pm
Thanks Richard
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Terry
5/7/2019 08:41:09 pm
Thanks Nick,
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Terry
6/7/2019 06:01:12 pm
Nick,
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I would say low and radically tight. I have seen pictures of lower cuts but they are almost always on guys cut as adults who wanted it done that way. When hard the scar is about 1 cm behind the glans, following its shape and forms an inverted 'v' underneath. This is low compared to a US style Gomco or Mogen cut. There js a bit of fren left ( I was two when I was circumcised). When hard some scrotal skin gets pulled up the shaft: I shave because I don't like pubic hair on the shaft. There is also a bit of webbing where the skin is pulled up at the base. I love being cut tight though. I'd have been very happy with a standard American circ.
Terry
6/7/2019 06:25:12 pm
For Nick, Other & Real Richard on the subject of Improving Sensitivity. Some insight into what might be achieved over time. I should point out that I have reached this point over several years and that I can't remember the last time I allowed an ejaculatory orgasm but it must be somewhere around 6 to 8 weeks ago so my energy levels are very high. Last night was typical for me in that it started with Evening Devotions (more on this topic in next installment) followed by half an hour of what I am going to teach you i.e. Meditational or Mindful Masturbation (MM for short). Then to sleep only to wake a couple of hours later with thunderstorms in the vicinity - an opportunity to absorb some cosmic energy from the storms on the inhale and to focus and channel it to my root chakra on the exhale. ThIs quickly led to an erection and then to pelvic convulsions or shudders then to involuntary PC muscle contractions and eventually to multiple Dry Orgasms (DOs) all without direct physical stimulation. I had two more similar events in the night each lasting for about half an hour although without the storms. This morning I woke about 7 am and had to take a pee break then back to bed for some MM but the cat had different ideas and I had to get up again to feed him so I could eventually get some peace and quiet. Finally I got back into bed with a flaccid penis and I just lay there in lotus position and focused my mind deep breathing cosmic energy in with the in-breath and channeling it down to the root chakra with the out breath. Pretty soon I was feeling the makings of an erection and also experiencing pelvic convulsions which morphed into multiple DOs. I had several DO series after that without losing the erection and then rolled onto my front to rest but continued to enjoy DOs as I dozed with my penis lightly pressed between me and the sheets. Believe me, this mental focus and the ability to deeply relax are key to good MM practice. Anyway, now you know what is possible and so have something to aim for as we begin our MM practice.
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Terry
7/7/2019 04:50:21 pm
Thanks Nick - we share the same low cut but mine runs parallel to the corona (sleeve resection) versus your V which I assume is from a Mogen clamp or forceps guided procedure. I too am tight but not as tight as you describe and I agree - tight is good. I too would have liked the standard American Gomco high and tight - I've had plenty of opportunity to observe many examples of the type since I moved to USA 20 years ago. Being a high cut, it leaves more of the sensitive inner foreskin folded back on the shaft. Many younger folks here were cut using the Plastibell device which IMHO leaves a less pleasing result being looser and often leaves enough skin to roll-over onto the glans when flaccid which is most unsatisfactory and the reason for my two revisions.
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To be fair my circ is very neatly done. The scar is very fine and if it weren't for the difference in skin tone either side of it, it would be difficult to spot. I think it is worth the hassle of shaving to be tightly cut. My dad's circ was tight too while my brother's is loose. I am glad I am like my father in this respect.
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Terry
13/7/2019 09:21:04 pm
For Nick, Other Richard and Real Richard.
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Terry
13/7/2019 09:25:03 pm
For Nick, Other Richard and Real Richard,
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Richard (ClentBoy)
13/7/2019 10:13:43 pm
Terry
Terry
14/7/2019 06:38:15 pm
Thank you Richard, that thought had not occurred to me. I'm sure James and the team read all the posts so if they think my contributions are worth capturing more permanently they will contact me.
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Terry
4/8/2019 09:42:59 pm
Improving Sensitivity - Methods and techniques.
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I have been unwell recently and am now on the mend. So I thought I'd try some of your exercises. I found that lightly stimulating the sulcus and what frenulum I still have, while applying some tension to the shaft skin was incredible: I think you are right about this suiting a tightly circumcised dick! I did not believe that my cock could be so sensitive. I managed to do this, and other of your suggestions, for about 45 minutes until I couldn't stand it any longer (in a good way) and made myself ejaculate. I think this would have been even better if I had had more self control. I was surprised by how engorged my glans became. I was also taken aback by the amout of precum I produced. My helmet became so purple and shiny it looked more like the glans of an uncircumcised dick! The results of my first trial felt surprisingly good.
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Richard (ClentBoy)
12/8/2019 08:50:40 pm
Hello Nick
Richard (ClentBoy)
12/8/2019 08:58:01 pm
Sorry forgot to add I can confirm Richard Gasquet is UNCUT
Terry
29/3/2020 07:48:33 pm
Nick - an update on my own progress to help you understand what is possible with practice.
Terry
12/8/2019 09:15:36 pm
Here follows the missing part of my August 4th post on Improving Sensitivity.....
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Terry
12/8/2019 09:13:23 pm
Hi Nick,
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Improving Sensitivity - Final instalment.
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Terry
10/11/2019 09:37:04 pm
For Richard (Client Boy) Any closer to getting circumcised yet?
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ClentBoy
10/11/2019 09:46:09 pm
Hello Terry,
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Terry
11/11/2019 08:18:29 pm
Hi Richard, does the tennis season never end? They'll be playing in the snow next! All's well with me thanks, in fact better than the last time we exchanged messages as Cialis is off patent here in the USA and I'm now taking a 5 mg daily dose which is working wonders in conjunction with my tantric practices - its almost like being a teenager again! As for your decision, don't procrastinate - the longer you leave it the longer you have to put-up with the present problems and the shorter the time left for you to enjoy the new circumcised you. Remember that most men who get cut as adults say its the best thing they have ever done for themselves and wish they had done it earlier.....
ClentBoy
11/11/2019 08:44:42 pm
Hello Terry,
Terry
12/11/2019 07:38:15 pm
Hi Richard, yes I can see that you have to follow the money when the opportunity arises so long may the invites continue! At least you will be able to put aside the funds for your circ. With your condition you would probably qualify for a NHS circ but it would be grudgingly given, probably only after months of trying steroid cream treatment and then you would have little choice about what style and likely would end up with the NHS standard sloppy loose cut. Far better to go to a good circ clinic where you get to choose when to be done (important consideration in your situation) and what style you want (also very important - get it right first time). Travel safely...….
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Dwayne
29/12/2019 11:33:06 pm
My circumcision was done on the NHS and without any resistance unlike the previous two referrals to see urologists privately. The operation itself has given me the perfect outcome in terms of tightness and cosmetic result.
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David
18/12/2019 09:09:42 am
Any plans for another post Christmas live chat?
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22/12/2019 08:54:01 pm
I went swimming with the school when I was ten or so and ended up in the same cubicle as a boy who was cut. I'd never seen one before. Both of us ended up with roaring erections, although that was the extent of it. I've been circumsexual to a greater or lesser extent ever since.
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David
23/12/2019 08:24:28 pm
Did you say anything to him about him being cut. How did your interest develop from that experience?
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OtherRichard
26/12/2019 03:24:47 pm
Sorry, my comment below meant as a reply/response to yours of 23/12
Andrew
17/5/2020 12:32:51 am
I had a very similar experience. We were paired off for swimming lessons to share a cubicle. I was with a boy also called Andrew. He was American by birth and when we first changed together I instantly noted his clean cut penis. Aged 9 we both became erect and compared the differences. It was an experience that transformed my life
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otherRichard
26/12/2019 12:00:30 pm
For me it was just the opposite - noticing boys with foreskins and wondering about the difference. How powerful these early experiences are and how they shape our lives & our sexualities. I guess the very early experience of being circumcised at a few weeks old had a profound affect too even at a sub-conscious level.
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Terry
26/12/2019 09:20:29 pm
Replying to David and Other Richard,
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otherRichard
7/1/2020 03:51:10 pm
It strikes me that a lot depends on the skill and attitude of the circumciser. Mine seems to have been a routine freehand job by the local gp. No great concern for the aesthetics or functioning outcome.For such an important intervention in a mans sexual life to be undertaken fairly casually seems so wrong. I am left with a pretty rough & ready low & tight cut. Bad scarring and a small skin bridge. No good. So, yes if you are going to get a cut as an adult make sure you get someone who knows what he/she is doing and you get waht u want.
Terry
7/1/2020 04:32:14 pm
Very sound advice Other Richard and given from a perspective of personal experience which I could echo from my own original circ, an unsatisfactory revision and finally, after I found an expert circumciser, I got an excellent result
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It amazes me how circumcision in the UK is so poorly regulated. There really should be mandatory training with formal approval before someone is allowed to do a circumcision without supervision. If your circ is done either carelessly or without adequate skill (as it sounds like OtherRichard's was) it may be difficult to fix. I will always regret that the GP who circumcised me decided to remove most of the sensitive inner foreskin.
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Paul W
8/1/2020 06:59:15 am
Yes indeed; it's a 'minor' operation, but a very important one that requires skill and a good cosmetic outcome is vital. It's different in private clinics, of course - they would soon go out of business if they did a poor job.
OtherRichard
2/3/2020 04:58:48 pm
I totally agree. I have been told by two urologists that my circumcision was badly & inexpertly done and there was little chance of an effective correction. Like Nick, the doctor removed most of my sensitive inner skin. He was an old style GP & probably trained to do circumcisions under the old anti-masturbation system. As I've commented before it is not acceptable that such a radical intervention can be undertaken so casually.
Sean
8/1/2020 07:09:38 pm
At the beginning of the NHS back in the late 40s RIC was being discouraged and presumably, with its decline, the newly invented clamps such as the Gomco and the later Plastibel, which offered excellent cosmetic results, were catching on big time in the US, Canada and Australia. The decline in RIC in this country would probably explain why these clamps never caught on in the UK. Back in the 50s, 60s and 70s, the GPs/Surgeons who still offered circumcisions to young parents were only used to carrying out freehand operations with their resultant variations in cosmetic styles. In those days a circumcision was a circumcision that’s all. What we know today as the various styles, high and tight etc, have come about because of the use of these clamps and their consistent cosmetic results, these styles were probably unknown to UK Doctors in those times, also many of them would have been uncircumcised themselves, therefore not appreciating the cosmetic significance for their patients when they became adults.
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otherRichard
29/4/2020 05:03:43 pm
Just got round to reading Sean's reply and I am sure his comment about the usa development of clamps never really caught on here is correct. I would question the statement that many docs at the time would not have been circumcised. Given the class basis of the medical profession back then I think it was more than likely that many doctors born & trained pre -ww2 would have been circumcised themselves. Where I think Sean is spot on is in the view that a circumcision was just that. No big deal. A routine tidying up following the birth of a boy. Aesthetics didn't come into it. Certainly the case with the doc who circ'd me. I knew him as my family gp well into my teenage years. An old school doctor who my parents remember wearing wing collars. For him it would have been an event of little significance & a chance to earn a small fee for a few minutes work (pre NHS) Thankfully there is a lot more information available now & I'm sure the many Muslim docs offering circ are a lot more skilled and thoughtful.
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David R
12/5/2020 02:16:11 am
Actually, if not applied correctly the Gomco clamp can leave a rather disfiguring dark ring around the shaft. I remember as a lad seeing another boy who had a black ring around the shaft of his penis. Not just 'not pretty', just plain ugly..
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Hi David R. That does sound unattractive, but I like to be positive: that boy probably had no say in what was done to him. I am cut low and tight (infant cut) and I think my circ was neatly done. Unfortunately for me my dick is not very responsive. The only really sensitive part is the thin strip of remaining inner foreskin: just enough to know what I am missing. I would prefer to have more of the sensitive skin, even if it this meant an uglier looking dick.
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Andrew
25/10/2020 11:29:52 pm
Having spent a part of my teenage years in California where the circumcision rate was near 100% in the 1970s - and where I believe the Gomco was the normal method used I have to beg to differ - The vast majority of my mates at school had realy neat circumcision scars with only a faint mark about a third of the way along their shafts. From my observations the majority had a glans that was completely exposed the whole time and a really great result
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Jonathan
7/6/2021 06:33:22 pm
I was circumcised in the early 90s at the ripe old age of 12 using the Gomco and do not have a particularly remarkable scar. I guess that is because the doctor who performed the procedure knew what he was doing. As Andrew observed, my glans is always exposed (and I think it looks great too!)
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Terence
15/6/2021 07:46:50 pm
I read that you can not use a Gomco Clamp after the person
Jonathan
16/6/2021 02:31:31 pm
I was circumcised in the States (though I am British) and they definitely used the Gomco, but perhaps that is not done anymore. This happened before I really started puberty so perhaps that's why the doctor made that choice.
Andrew
25/6/2021 01:33:16 am
Johnathan - what are your memories of the Gomco Procedure
Andrew
25/6/2021 01:35:12 am
Sorry I see you were done in the US with a Gomco - How did that come about
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Andrew
25/6/2021 02:18:14 am
I am very jealous - i think the Gomco done pre puberty gives a really neat result
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Jonathan
25/6/2021 11:40:53 am
Hi Andrew,
David
28/6/2021 12:36:06 pm
Hi Jonathan,
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Jonathan
28/6/2021 04:41:02 pm
Hi David - Yes, I had seen many circumcised American penises before; in fact, that exposure was one of the most influential reasons why I wanted to have my foreskin removed (my overhang was also quite long). It is a complicated story, but I had "step-cousins" (at least that is what I called them) in the States and we would visit their families during the summer holidays. There were 7 boys in the group, ages 4-16 and I soon discovered that all of them had been circumcised. The first time I saw two of my cousins naked - I was 9, they were 12 and 14 - I was fascinated by their circumcised status. And of course, they were surprised by my foreskin - they said I looked like an anteater! They didn't tease or try to convince me to get circumcised, but certainly inspired me to ask my parents!
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Hi Jonathan, I agree about having friends who are cut too. At work there was a guy who was getting cut. I was already cut by then so we had several chats about getting cut and being cut. We both moved on to different jobs but we're still close pals. I'm a naturist and almost always get chatting when there's another cut guy at naturist events. I made a good friend from one of the naturist clubs I joined before I moved back to Scotland, and we'd have never chatted or got to know each other if we hadn't seen we were both cut. Birds of a feather I guess!
Jonathan
18/7/2021 07:12:28 pm
Yes, Jack, I completely agree. Later, at university I ended up making friends with two other guys who were cut. They noticed my status and we struck up a conversation. I am having dinner with one of them next week, in fact. Maybe I will ask him if he remembers how we met!
Andrew
28/6/2021 02:52:48 pm
Thanks for your reply - I am also interested as to what led to you being circumcised
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Jonathan
28/6/2021 04:45:58 pm
Hi Andrew,
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Andrew
1/7/2021 10:53:56 am
Yes I think 12 is a good age - I was pre pubertal still, so not as big a drama as it could have been if I had been in the really embarrassed phase - I understood what was happening and certainty could appreciate the benefit of what was being done for me - I guess it helped that I had a lot of circumcised friends of the same age that I positively identified with
PaulC
15/7/2021 10:36:05 pm
Until very, very recently I thought I was 11 when I was circumcised but it turns out that I was actually a couple of months into 12. Personally (and with hindsight) I wish I had just been cut when I was 4 or 5 or something as it would have been less involved but am glad that I am regardless!
Jonathan
18/7/2021 07:10:07 pm
Hi PaulC - I can see what you mean about having it done at a younger age since it would be less involved, but I also think there are some advantages to having it done a bit later. For instance, I feel as though I was able to make the choice myself, so even though the decision caused me to miss 4 weeks of my summer (whilst recovering - no swim or sport, etc) I felt like I was in control. I could also participate in the procedure somewhat - the doctor told me what he was doing.
Paul W
19/7/2021 02:27:02 pm
I was pleased to be able to choose to have it done as an adult - I got to decide on the style and wanted and I agree it's good to have experienced it with a foreskin and now without. For me it's been a great decision - I far prefer being circumcised.
PaulC
19/7/2021 03:39:06 pm
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan
23/7/2021 02:31:15 pm
Hi PaulC -
Andrew
2/8/2021 01:05:34 am
I also recognise and agree with your experiences. I was not wanking as such when I was circumcised, but had enjoyed exploring my erection.
Andrew
2/8/2021 01:41:46 am
I also remember how sensitive my newly exposed glams was - having a shower, with the water running over the tip of my penis nearly always gave me an erection in those early days - some thing I definitely enjoyed
PaulC
2/8/2021 02:23:06 am
Jonathan and Andrew, thank you both for sharing your experiences. I wish that I had experienced similar stuff so that I too could make a comparison but, unfortunately, it wasn't to be. I am fascinated by how much ahead of me in the game you both were - my first wanks, if you can call them that, were just rubbing myself against my bed sheets after is was circumcised, which stimulated underneath my helmet amazingly well and were very satisfying but it wasn't until I went to boarding school at 13 that I learnt to masturbate 'dry' with my hand or 'wet' with pre-cum and spit and actually involved my exposed glans properly.. It was certainly an amazing step up though!
Andrew
2/8/2021 10:26:22 pm
For Paul C
PaulC
2/8/2021 10:57:29 pm
Andrew,
PaulC
2/8/2021 11:00:07 pm
Apologies, Andrew, I missed your other question. Yes, I had my frenulum removed when I was circumcised. I have a nice V instead, which I much prefer!
Jonathan
3/8/2021 06:59:20 pm
Hi Andrew - Yes, my circumcision was high and tight, so I have very little skin left at all. And I had exactly the same experience with the newly exposed glans on my little 3 incher was incredibly sensitive. Before I was circumcised, I used to like wearing my football shorts without pants - I loved the feel of it - but when I tried after I had lost my foreskin it was basically impossible - I was constantly erect!
Andrew
3/8/2021 08:15:21 pm
For Paul C - 50% of your school chums circumcised - that's a huge number - where and when did you grow up
PaulC
11/8/2021 04:22:19 pm
Andrew, I went to a very minor public school in Essex in the mid to late 80's. That's my general impression of the cavalier / roundhead split but I wasn't methodically checking everyone I met. Certainly there were more circumcised boys amongst the boarders than the day boys but based on my friends and those I knew best then it really was 50/50. What sort of split did you have?
Andrew
1/9/2021 12:45:59 am
At my school the split was about 30 5 Circumcised and 70% Uncircumcised Of those that were circumcised, about 30% had a loose circumcision with an obvious rim of loose inner skin behind their glans - about 30 were high and tight with a totally exposed glans at all times and about30% low and tight with a fully exposed glans
David
28/6/2021 03:29:57 pm
What lead to your circumcision Andrew? I was referred to a doctor for a tight foreskin at twelve (I think I was thirteen by the time I saw the specialist but had been 12 at the GP appointment). But they said it was best to wait and see if it resolved itself as most boys could retract at 15 so they would see me again then.
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Andrew
1/7/2021 10:56:42 am
I had a very long and tight foreskin that was identified as being problematical at my Pre-Secondary School Medical I also had a lot of circumcised friends and I actually wanted to look like them - So when it was suggested that it might need doing at the medical, i sort of begged for it to happen - I was fed up with my dangly and somewhat problematical foreskin and wanted to have a neat and smooth willy like my best friends had
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8/1/2023 09:18:40 am
Me too, I used to see who was cut whilst showering after PE and games, also when I joined the armed forces. At 36 the opportunity presented it self and I got cosmetically cut, I love the result..
Graham
16/1/2023 06:42:29 am
Hi Paul, did you join the British Army? As a ranker or officer? What was the cut to non cut ratio?
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17/1/2023 01:41:17 pm
Hi Graham I was Royal Navy, Submarine Service. There were 18 us joined up and two cut, as my service proceeded I discovered more cut men in the Submarine Service due to lack of washing facilities on diesel boats.
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Mark
29/1/2023 06:07:10 pm
Paul Price: Just before Christmas I was lucky enough to meet a young (22)sailor, here in Essex. He was an Essex lad by birth and was quite surprised to discover he was circumcised. Not expected, therefore extra welcome.
Will
30/1/2023 10:27:18 am
Several years ago I used to know an ex-Marine who had been circumcised while in service. He said that they were 'strongly advised' to have it done as a matter of course.
Mark
2/2/2023 10:46:39 am
Will. I remember some years ago when Microsoft(?) had it's Yahoo groups, there was one called "Male Circumcision Community" -American of course and I remember one of the contributors had written that you couldn't get into West Point if you still had your foreskin. I was quite young at the time, and I remember how disapppiinted I was when at the urinal at Liverpool Street Station, I was standing next to a British squaddie, who had a very long unpleasant foreskin. A pity the British services were not as thorough as the USA - or your Navy friend.
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Will
3/2/2023 09:36:21 am
Mark - I know they do keep an eye on things and squaddies/sailors/airmen are sent to be circumcised if there is any likelihood of problems - tight skins, etc. But it's deffo not a routine thing. (There is the recurrent rumour that all lads going out to serve in the Middle East were offered it.)
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Matt
23/5/2023 03:50:04 pm
I had three friends at primary school who were circumcised. We all lived on the same housing estate and their mums were all nurses at the local hospital. I was fascinated by their perfect looking penises since I suffered with phimosis. I ultimately got circumcised myself at 17 before I started University. I was still healing from the circumcision in my first few weeks. I received a high and tight cut, done under local anaesthetic at a private clinic using the forceps guided method. I also had my frenulum entirely removed. It wan't bad at all but ached afterwards for a week and took a month to heal. I'd literally never seen my own glans before my circumcision, only those of other circumcised boys.
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